Re: [VFB] A List Gone Bad...Was...Who is (or was) the greatest fly tier ever???

[Charlie Bonner]

I find that the list stale mates this time of year because just like 
everything else people are really extremely busy until winter sets in. We 
are just starting to hit the end of the summer lul. I started on this list 2 
or 3 years ago looking for answers to fishing for carp. My questions were 
answered and I was truely thankful for those answer.(side note: I still 
couldnt catch those damn things, I almost broke my leg trying to sneak over 
the pond dam on them one afternoon and had to miss work for 3 days with a  
swollen ankle.) We have lost a few key members in our game and I think that 
has had an effect on a lot of people. Murph comes to my mind, how would a 
young and tying kid from the foothills in Arkansas get to meet people like 
Murph, Tony, Jayhawk Jeff, Jimmy D, and DonO other than a list like this. 
Thanks for the list Byard and thanks to all you "old" guys for the help. 
Sorry Veronica, I know you aren't that old.

From: Anthony Spezio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: <vfb@troutnet.com>
To: <vfb@troutnet.com>
Subject: Re: [VFB] A List Gone Bad...Was...Who is (or was) the greatest fly 
tier ever???
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:55:14 -0700 (PDT)

I hope this will not offend anyone especially the
friends I have made on this list. I have thought
several times of unsubscribing but I was afraid of
loosing contact with most of you. I have personally
met a good number of you people and have not found any
that I disliked.There are some more of you I want to
meet in person.If it were not for this list, we would
not have some of the best flytyers at the Sowbug
Roundup Show. Yes, we are a family and I feel I am
part of it. Maybe it is just me getting to be an old
toot over the years but at times I just get bored with
the list and wish we could go back to the old days.
We have lost a good number of regulars, not sure what
the reason is,I think we have become a bit stale.
I will stay with the list as long as it is around, I
still need to keep in touch with you all.
Tony

--- Michael Bliss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Byard, et. al,
>
> I will lightly weigh in on this.  I migrated to this
> list 4 or 5 years back
> (has it been longer?) from another list for the very
> reason that Byard
> mentioned that we are doing here.  I knew Byard from
> there.  We were in a
> couple of swaps and I still have one that he did
> where we drew our favorite
> fly and tying method.  I think Sue was the
> swapmistress.  I came to the list
> to be educated and meet new friends.  That has
> happened.  I think that
> sometimes we get a little too silly here but having
> said that I like that we
> are friendly and seem to care about each other.  I
> get lots of help from the
> list so I would hate to see it go away.  I would
> just suggest a little less
> banter and more real education.  I did think Chuck's
> question would lead to
> some interesting discussion of tyers and their art.
> It still could.  I will
> try and help in this area with my comments for as I
> said, I think the people
> on this list are a wonderful cross section from
> around the world.  Ian
> helped me so much when I was headed to New Zealand.
> Too bad he could not
> meet me there to teach me to land the big ones I was
> fortunate to hook.
> Let's do what it takes to make this list the best.
>
> Mike
>
>
> On 9/27/06, Chuck Alexander
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I apologize for any of My off topic comments..
> I'll stay fishing/tying
> > related, Chuck
> > >
> > >
> > > I used to be quite proud of this VFB mail list.
> What happened?
> > >
> > > Today a post was made...a good post... it
> attempted solicitation of
> > > comments and thoughts that actually pertained to
> fly tying. I
> > was  really
> > > looking forward to the discussion. Thanks Paul M
> for a most  lucid
> > > reply... sadly, yours was the only one. All
> other replies  turned a
> > viable
> > > topic into a "good-ole-boy" diatribe...a much
> too  frequent occurrence
> > of
> > > late.
> > >
> > > At the top of this note you will find a request
> for unsubscribing
> > > instructions. I don't blame him. If this wasn't
> my list, I'd be gone.  I
> > > see two to three new subscribers daily... and
> the same number of  folks
> > > bailing by unsubscribing daily. Why... because
> the group has  become
> > very
> > > closed and familial. Yes, over the years we've
> all come  to know each
> > > other but for this list to continue we must
> strive to  accept new
> > members.
> > >
> > > I don't currently have the time or energy to be
> the tyrant landlord  of
> > > the list. If someone would like to step up to
> the position please  raise
> > > your hand.
> > >
> > > As the list currently stands, I can't envision a
> need for it
> > to  continue
> > > in it's present form. So what do we do?
> Suggestions?
> > >
> > > I'll start...
> > >
> > > Biggie... refocus on fly tying/fishing.
> > >
> > > ...you guys continue the discussion...
> > >
> > > ...byard
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

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