RE: [VFB] Guderbrod Thread Question

[Reuven Segal]

The thing is that people make the mistake of trying to build up heads with such a fine thread and it takes a million slippery twists. It is not something to use for building up heads. Rather, it is for keeping the build-up of thread down(I am referring to the 10/0 that I use but it is applicable to most I believe). Try to really use the minimum for the head and add a tiny amount of dubbing before completing the head. Otherwise, keep a small head but use a liberal dose of thick head cement. One other method I have used for larger heads is to do a half hitch or two, tie in some silk and for the head with it (don't need much), tie off with the G thread and head cement lightly. The 10/0 I have though is used only on size 18-28 as I only have a very limited supply for now.     R   ______________________________________________ Reuven Segal   B. Engineering (Aerospace)- Final Year B. Engineering (Manufacturing Systems and Management) RMIT University   5/11 Rockbrook Road, East St. Kilda, 3183 Melbourne, Victoria Australia   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 0422 266798   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of DonO Sent: Sunday, 1 October 2006 10:22 AM To: vfb@troutnet.com Subject: Re: [VFB] Guderbrod Thread Question LOL, Tiny dab of cement...   The flies I just tied take more than a spool of thread each and one bottle of head cement each.   DonO ----- Original Message ----- From: Reuven Segal To: vfb@troutnet.com Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 4:16 PM Subject: RE: [VFB] Guderbrod Thread Question I always add a tiny dab of head cement either way, but just vary the type of finishing knot and you should find one that suits your tying style. I am not  picky but don't seem to have many problems. Either way, when I finish a bunch I just do the dab.   R    ______________________________________________ Reuven Segal   B. Engineering (Aerospace)- Final Year B. Engineering (Manufacturing Systems and Management) RMIT University   5/11 Rockbrook Road, East St. Kilda, 3183 Melbourne, Victoria Australia   [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 0422 266798   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Chuck Alexander Sent: Sunday, 1 October 2006 3:33 AM To: vfb@troutnet.com Subject: [VFB] Guderbrod Thread Question Folks: It's probably something a "rookie tier" like myself is doing wrong, but when Nick brought up Guderbrod thread yesterday I think it was..Well, I tried that brand, and I CANNOT get the whip finish knot NOT to unravel.. No matter if I whip finish 3-4-5-6 etc rounds, if I snipped off the thread really close, it (the knot) would come unraveled, like some of the nylon ropes that there are that just will not hold a knot..Like it has more wax than it needed??? So, I have been using Uni Thread and Danville's with no problems..The thread (The Guderbrod) "feels" like great thread, so, am i doing something wrong??? Cause I have a few spools and hate to see anything go to waste, Thanks, Chuck   No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release Date: 9/29/2006