from what i can gather the vinegar open the pour for the dye to enter. I'm
guessing once the dye enter
it will stay for ever here is what pacres sent me:
Here is what I do.

1. Soak the feather / hair for at least 2 hours with shampoo. Better
saturation, and cleaner feathers make for a better dye lot.

2. Rinse the feathers off well.

3. Mix your dye with water. Use a ratio of dye to weight of product
being dyed. If your not sure, go lighter. It's really tought to dye
lighter.

4. Add the feathers and bring the temperature up to 140 F slowly. Use
a thermometer for meat to check it.

5. Make sure you stir it well.

6. Add vinigar about 10% of the water volume

7. Let it sit. I ussually let it sit overnight. It produces intense
colours. If it's not dark enough, add more dye and reheat to 140.

8. rinse until it runs clear

9. Add a bit of conditioner to help keep the feathers moist.

10. air dry. turn the hair or feathers and put lots of paper towel or
newspaper underneath

I will be creating a tutorial that goes into depth at some point soon.
I'll keep you posted.
dave

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Sent: November 12, 2006 2:47 AM
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Subject: RE: [VFB] Dying Feathers with Beets


Will I need to treat it with vinegar at the end to seal it all in or is it
going to stain and stay stained for a while?

R

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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, 12 November 2006 5:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [VFB] Dying Feathers with Beets


When I used to make hand made soap, I used beets a pretty good bit, so I
think it would work on fly tying material.. We (in soapmaking) also use
"turmeric" (sp) to dye a yellow color, Chuck

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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 5:44 PM
Subject: RE: [VFB] Dying Feathers with Beets


> Just jumping on this discussion:
>
> Has anyone ever dyed materials using Beets?
> I put some cutting/skins in water overnight and this morning it was a
> perfect colour for what I would like to try on some duns. Anyone can offer
> some advice??
> R
>
> ______________________________________________
> Reuven Segal
>
> B. Engineering (Aerospace)- Final Year
> B. Engineering (Manufacturing Systems and Management)
> RMIT University
>
> 5/11 Rockbrook Road,
> East St. Kilda, 3183
> Melbourne, Victoria
> Australia
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Masson
> Sent: Sunday, 12 November 2006 1:21 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [VFB] Dying Feathers
>
>
> Hi Darren:
> Thank i just got a e-mail from  rangerbob, he said to get a hold of you.
> I'll be looking forward to see the video he said you would be doing,i,ll
> try
> your style and see what happen,what i'm tring to get is a royal blue on
> the
> dark side.I'm using white feathers for this we'll see what happen thank
> for
> your help.
> dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pacres
> Sent: November 10, 2006 9:56 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [VFB] Dying Feathers
>
>
> I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in on the subject.
>
> I have not tried the microwave method, but opt not to because it is
> much harder to control the temperature.
>
> Here is what I do.
>
> 1. Soak the feather / hair for at least 2 hours with shampoo. Better
> saturation, and cleaner feathers make for a better dye lot.
>
> 2. Rinse the feathers off well.
>
> 3. Mix your dye with water. Use a ratio of dye to weight of product
> being dyed. If your not sure, go lighter. It's really tought to dye
> lighter.
>
> 4. Add the feathers and bring the temperature up to 140 F slowly. Use
> a thermometer for meat to check it.
>
> 5. Make sure you stir it well.
>
> 6. Add vinigar about 10% of the water volume
>
> 7. Let it sit. I ussually let it sit overnight. It produces intense
> colours. If it's not dark enough, add more dye and reheat to 140.
>
> 8. rinse until it runs clear
>
> 9. Add a bit of conditioner to help keep the feathers moist.
>
> 10. air dry. turn the hair or feathers and put lots of paper towel or
> newspaper underneath
>
> I will be creating a tutorial that goes into depth at some point soon.
> I'll keep you posted.
>
> Cheers
>
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