Mike, those are good waters to try some fall tactics, when big fish are eager 
to eat things with lots of calories.  I use large feather and fur strip flies 
(up to 6" long) with heavy barbell eyes that I can fish well and deep in the 
holes without slack.  If your local fishing laws allow it, a trailer hook 
(bare) or a small following streamer (constitutes a double-fly) will catch the 
short strikers that you never feel otherwise.  Depending on your local laws, 
these bare hooks can be just inside the tail or just beyond the tail.  Big fish 
sneak-attack a large food fish from behind, strike at the tail, then follow up 
on the wounded prey.  It's a saltwater tactic that I grew up with, as gamefish 
would regualrly bite the fish off and leave the head on the hook, or leave the 
tail mangled if they missed hooking up.  I tried it for river trout and it 
works.  Before I was flyfishing-only (about 25  years ago) I used to fish both 
spinning and flies.  I would fish and routinely catch large trout on the rear 
hook of oversized rapalas, which clued me in and reminded me of saltwater 
tactics.  

Casting these large weighted (and wet) flies is a challenge and must be 
practiced, or else expect to hook yourself.  If you fish just the streamer, or 
use an indicator, your casting has to allow for that.  You'll be fishing deep 
in the runs, so your retrieve and cast have to account for a lot of drag on the 
pick-up.  It's a lot like heavy nymph-fishing.

DonO


----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael Bliss 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 1:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [VFB] Streamer fishing


  DonO

  I will be fishing mainly in rivers such as the Provo, Green, Madison, 
Beaverhead, etc.  so most are to some degree tailwaters I guess.  When you say 
oversized streamer what would that be and what is the trailer?  A smaller 
streamer? 

   
  On 11/30/06, DonO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
    Mike,

    There are many on this list that can help you with specifics, say tailwater 
streamer tactics, but we must know the type of water you want to fish and the 
target fish- species and size. 

    Then, there's conventional wisdom (books) vs. unconventional wisdom.  An 
oversized streamer with a small trailer hook catches a lot of fish in certain 
situations.  

    DonO
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Michael Bliss 
      To: [email protected] 
      Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:46 PM
      Subject: [VFB] Streamer fishing

       
      List:

      I consider myself an above average nymph fisherman, adequate dry fly 
fisherman and I stink as a streamer fisherman.  I have a goal this year to 
raise that aspect of my flyfishing.  Can any of you recommend an excellent book 
on the subject where I can at least get the concepts more clear in my mind?  
Thanks. 

      Mike


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