Thanks Deb.. and just when I thought I knew everything about fly fishing LOL.. J/K... I learn something new everyday here so that is a good thing, Thanks, Chuck

----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah Duran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: [VFB] Casting heavy flies


Chuck
Check out the Airflo designs and you will see what I think Jerry may be
talking about.
My husband has this system also.  I have a separate sinking head that I can
add to my line that isn't as heavy as casting a full sinking line.  I stay
to floating or intermediate for most of my fishing and if I need to get a
little deeper I carry the sinking head but I really am not too good at
casting it.  I think I've just used the floating line so much I'm more used
to the feel of it.   I started using an intermediate line more this past
summer.  I'm still working on it.  :)
http://www.flylines.com/Flylines_AirfloFlylineRange_Specialist_TacticalShoot
ingHeads.cfm
I'm guessing this is a more common thing in Saltwater lines but I'm still a
neophyte at fly fishing so don't take me too seriously.  ;0)
I do cast some heavy flies and I don't back cast them over my shoulder I
cast them slightly off to the side so I don't hook myself if the cast fails.
I've hit myself a couple of times in the back (the winds are killers here
also) but I haven't yet hooked myself...knock on wood.  I'm sure my time is
coming it's inevitable with the winds we get here.
Regards,
Deb

www.uftri.org
www.linesend.com

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chuck Alexander
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 4:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VFB] Casting heavy flies


Jerry: Thanks for the tips.. But, before they can help Me, i have a cpl of
questions #1, what is a "head"??? I may sound stupid LOL, but is that the
head of the fly??? or part of a special leader???? Also, what about the
times when I am bass fishing and the fish are in one foot of water??? Once I
figure out what a "head" is I'll be able to understand a lot
better...Thanks, Chuck
Chuck,

Several comments.  My definition of a good cast is one that results in a
hook up.
Secondly, I am not a purest.  In fact, I might be the least pure guy on the
list. J

With weighted flies I use a fast action rod with either intermediate or
sinking shooting heads or I over line
by one weight and use short sink tip lines.

With a weighted fly as you describe, your fly is ending up deep or on the
bottom,
so I let the line help in the casting of the fly and with getting it down.
I am not saying I never use a floating line with a clouser,
but again it would be with a line weighted one up from the rod and with a
short head.

My typical set up is a 7 wt with an 8 wt 28-30' shooting head or an 8wt with
a 225 or 250 grain
Teeny type line.  Rods are 9' and FAST.     I also use heads made  of TC-14
in various lengths.  Some as short as 15-20 ft.
With some of my set ups, I will actually use heads that are two sizes up.
7wt with 9wt head, 8 wt with 10wt head.

In Florida, in addition to the weighted fly, I am almost always in the wind.
So an open lob cast
is out of the question.  I have worn more than my share of Flies.  But if I
keep the loop tight and only false cast
once, I am pretty safe and can cast pretty far.  I typically use the water
haul technique.



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