Deb: I finally got to that site.. Thanks.. I finally saw a cpl guys who fish where I do (and I have been skunked the last FOUR trips LOL).. Anyway, they caught several nice bass, and they said the fish were in 15-20 ft of water now, so one of the sinking heads would be perfect I think... Thanks again.. Now if I can just take all the tips and learn to cast those heavy flies.. But, like you say.. Our winds have gusted up to 30mph.. Hard for me to cast any fly in that, and impossible for me if the wind is not in my face or against my back..Any side gusts, and I'd have one of those "pierced ear flies" I was talking about earlier LOL... Thanks again, Chuck

----- Original Message ----- From: "Deborah Duran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: [VFB] Casting heavy flies


Chuck
Check out the Airflo designs and you will see what I think Jerry may be
talking about.
My husband has this system also.  I have a separate sinking head that I can
add to my line that isn't as heavy as casting a full sinking line.  I stay
to floating or intermediate for most of my fishing and if I need to get a
little deeper I carry the sinking head but I really am not too good at
casting it.  I think I've just used the floating line so much I'm more used
to the feel of it.   I started using an intermediate line more this past
summer.  I'm still working on it.  :)
http://www.flylines.com/Flylines_AirfloFlylineRange_Specialist_TacticalShoot
ingHeads.cfm
I'm guessing this is a more common thing in Saltwater lines but I'm still a
neophyte at fly fishing so don't take me too seriously.  ;0)
I do cast some heavy flies and I don't back cast them over my shoulder I
cast them slightly off to the side so I don't hook myself if the cast fails.
I've hit myself a couple of times in the back (the winds are killers here
also) but I haven't yet hooked myself...knock on wood.  I'm sure my time is
coming it's inevitable with the winds we get here.
Regards,
Deb

www.uftri.org
www.linesend.com

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chuck Alexander
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 4:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VFB] Casting heavy flies


Jerry: Thanks for the tips.. But, before they can help Me, i have a cpl of
questions #1, what is a "head"??? I may sound stupid LOL, but is that the
head of the fly??? or part of a special leader???? Also, what about the
times when I am bass fishing and the fish are in one foot of water??? Once I
figure out what a "head" is I'll be able to understand a lot
better...Thanks, Chuck
Chuck,

Several comments.  My definition of a good cast is one that results in a
hook up.
Secondly, I am not a purest.  In fact, I might be the least pure guy on the
list. J

With weighted flies I use a fast action rod with either intermediate or
sinking shooting heads or I over line
by one weight and use short sink tip lines.

With a weighted fly as you describe, your fly is ending up deep or on the
bottom,
so I let the line help in the casting of the fly and with getting it down.
I am not saying I never use a floating line with a clouser,
but again it would be with a line weighted one up from the rod and with a
short head.

My typical set up is a 7 wt with an 8 wt 28-30' shooting head or an 8wt with
a 225 or 250 grain
Teeny type line.  Rods are 9' and FAST.     I also use heads made  of TC-14
in various lengths.  Some as short as 15-20 ft.
With some of my set ups, I will actually use heads that are two sizes up.
7wt with 9wt head, 8 wt with 10wt head.

In Florida, in addition to the weighted fly, I am almost always in the wind.
So an open lob cast
is out of the question.  I have worn more than my share of Flies.  But if I
keep the loop tight and only false cast
once, I am pretty safe and can cast pretty far.  I typically use the water
haul technique.



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