thank DonO i'll look for icelandic sheep,i'll try different places see if they carry it or can get it but i think i'll problely stay with buck tail thank for your help and everyone who reply to this question thank dave
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of DonO Sent: January 3, 2007 10:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [VFB] polar bear hair Dave, You're talking to someone here who has moved on from a polar bear addiction to an emporer penguin feather craving. 'Primo' polar bear is something to cherish. It has luster and highlights and irredescense and translucency and a feel like silk. I have hair patches from feet, haunches, back neck, etc., and they all exhibit a little bit difference in characteristics, like about all other hides do. Only the hide (skin) on the back is black, and the hide underneath is tan or beige. Mr. PB is a big light-gathering solar panel (and Mrs. PB). When I see penguin feathers, either singly or on a pelt, and see the sun's sheen on them, I am reminded of polar bear. Flies tied with polar bear have more to do with light than with movement (which they are actually poor at). A few strands will look like a whole clump of other material in the sunlight. A friend and I down in Pensacola tried our hands at glass minnows, and what finally worked was one strand of polar bear and two tiny silver eyes glued to the hook. And you could see it swim across the surface in the sunlight from a long distance. This friend had a patch of PB that he was really proud of, until I gave him a good patch. He threw his away. That's also why I use a tuft of polar bear for my wing-posts on emerger-style flies. Old yellowed polar bear loses all of these characteristics. It looks like old monofilament that's been left out in the weather. It becomes coarse, loses it velvety feel, and no longer has the translucency and 'ice-like' look. Dying it would change the color, but not the characteristics. I have some patches of dyed polar bear, and I can easily tell which patches were prime to start out with and which weren't. I got my PB from Canada, where it is legal to trade. I also have other artic furs which also exhibit great light qualities. That's why I want the EP pelt so bad. I have seen what is called 'Icelandic Sheep' (I think it's artic mountain goat), and I would suggest trying to get hold of some of that. It would have to be prime seasonal quality. As for deer, if you were talking of bucktail flies, then I'll change up a bit. I like good bucktail in warmer waters. In coastal saltwater, it's great for clousers because it gets so limp in warm water and then moves really well. In 40 deg. water, it's not quite so mobile. I used some bucktail flies in Baja in near 90 deg. water and it moved like marabou. DonO ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Masson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 12:50 PM Subject: RE: [VFB] bolar bear hair > i was told that white polar bear will replace deer hair now this is what i'm > told i really don't know this is for wingsa parently the hair moves better > in water is this true?iwas also told that goat hair is also better for wings > i guess this guy really don't know what he talking about because i sure > don't ha ha ha i haven't been tying long so i really don't know what to ask > or look for but thank DonO. > dave > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of DonO > Sent: January 3, 2007 3:15 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [VFB] bolar bear hair > > > Dave, > > Polar bear and goat are miles apart, and there's dozen's of species of goat. > ( I need a Lambourgini and a Volkswagen. How much do it cost?) > > You state "it's better than deer hair"... which one are you referring to? > > Neither are a replacement for deer hair, in any way. Deer is hollow and > will flare. Goat and polar bear don't flare very well. > > Can't help you on the rest until you say which one you're talking about. > Goat is cheap and easy to come by. > Polar bear is very difficult to come by, especially new white hair (i.e. > non-yellowed from storage- which is about worthless). > > DonO > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Masson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:58 AM > Subject: [VFB] bolar bear hair > > > > Can some one help me out here,i'm trying to find some polar bear hair and > > goat hair. some people say it's better than deer hair, is this ture?does > it > > dye better than deer?and can a person buy a big peice, the size of a > med.zip > > loc bag and how much.I know for a small patch down here it will run you > > about $5-$8.00 just for a small patch any help would be great fully. > > thank dave > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.3/614 - Release Date: 1/2/2007 > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.3/614 - Release Date: 1/2/2007 > >
