Ahhhhhhh Haaaaaaaaaaaa.. Now that I went there and read all the article and looked at all the pics enlarged, it makes perfect sense (except that I still cannot picture how you'd use short hair like the hare's mask hairs)..I just GOTTA try that weighted woolly bugger... I think I'll try a Chili pepper like that..Don, BTW, I still have the ice dubbing you sent me last year.. Do you have any recipes for it, rope dubbed to make some bluegill flies??? And/or some bass flies??? I used some of the rope dubbed hooks you sent "as is" and DID catch fish...One last thing.. Has anybody ever cut into one of the transformers that just about every TV, Radio, DVD player, hair dryer,kitchen appliances, Rechargeable drill and other tool chargers.. The black box that plugs into the 110 volt outlet, then changes the voltage to anywhere from say 4.5 to 18 volts DC.. If you cut into one of these, is the copper windings big enough to use in tying flies??? Thanks, Chuck

----- Original Message ----- From: "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dubbing Marabou


Chuck,

Lefty was demo-ing right before me two years ago in Denver, just after his
heart attack and stroke.

He demo'd that tie you're describing, but he didn't rope-dub around the wire
like I do.  He just twisted the chennille and hackle to make a rope.  When
you rope on the wire as a core, it gives you a lot of alternatives for
tying. See the VFB site for the all-in-one wooly-bugger tie in the rope-dub
article.

As far as short flies go, I can get 28 segments rope-dubbed on a #28 dry fly
hook.

Not many people 'get' the technique until they see it in person. It's just
too easy to jump-assume that it's like the other techniques.

DonO


----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dubbing Marabou


DonO: The other night I took apart some of the hooks you sent me that you
had demo'd the rope dub.. I peeled back the wire and the rope dub "light"
came on .. It finally makes since to Me.. Then I saw a video where Lefty
Kreh basically tied in a "rope dubbed" wooly bugger, to make it where you
can catch 100 fish on one fly.. He took a black and a yellow strand of
chenille, and the hackle feather.. Tied them in at the back of the hook as
normal, then twisted them into a rope, and tied them all in TOGETHER, and
lie he said, it wasn't as pretty as a real good spiraled in "Normal" wooly
bugger, but your hackles (and the "roped" chenille)  would last ten times
as
long as normal..I'm gonna have to give it a try now that I see it.. I am
still having trouble picturing how you'd rope in short stuff like the
hares
mask.. But the longer stuff I now "see the light" er, uh, "see the rope"
LOL.. Chuck

----- Original Message ----- From: "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dubbing Marabou


> Tony,
>
> I do the same thing, but I 'rope-dub' it. The looks come out same as
> yours,
> except that the marabou dubbing 'rope' has a wire core.  A thick wire
> gives
> it weight and a thin wire is less weight, but both are bullet-proof for
> teeth.  If I want it for dry flies, I just use my tying mono for the
core,
> and I get durability and zero extra weight.
>
> I showed Pete Gramps how to do it at the NJ Symposium.
>
> DonO
>
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anthony Spezio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [VFB] Stackign Marabou
>
>
>> Chuck,
>> I tie a one marabou plume fly. Preen all the fibers to
>> the top. Tie in so that that end is a short stubby
>> tail. Twist the plume counter clockwise  so that it
>> forms a "rope'. Lay it back and over wrap with thread
>> so that it covers the tie in wrap. Wrap the rope fwd
>> on the shank for the body. The tighter you twist the
>> rope the more segmented the body will be. Tie off
>> behind the eye. Lift that end of the plume back and
>> over wrap to form the head. Clip off about 1/4 to 3/8"
>> from the head. This will lay back for the wing. Seems
>> like olive and Orange are good colors.
>> --- Chuck Alexander
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > Folks: When spinning the deer hair, and watching
>> > video of  it being stacked, it made me think.. Why
>> > not "stack" marabou on Wooly buggers..Say if you are
>> > tying a black and yellow "Yellow Jacket" pattern.
>> > with yellow and black marabou... Why not tie in
>> > yellow and black marabou.. Anybody do this??? Is it
>> > effective??? If so, in what colors?? Thanks in
>> > advance, Chuck
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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