Chuck, The 'core' of the rope-dub technique IS the core. It can be wire, mono, or your tying thread - depends what you need. Then the anchoring is the 2nd most important, then the counter-spin with tension on the thread or wire so that the core does not twist with the dubbing. Everything works off of those few essentials. Some dubbings will rope without a core, but then they aren't as durable, and tying with them is not as flexible. One can form noodles out of the dubbing. There's lots of things you can do. What the rope-dub method allows you to do is lots of things with the SAME technique and use ALL dubbing materials- naturals, synthetics, raw furs, guard-hairs, hackles, marabou, emu - easy, very fast, no wax, loops, splitting thread, & no tools. The density is unmatched by any other method, along with perfect segmentation and taper- all adjustable in the roping step.
I could type here until I'm blue in the fingetips and still not impress on you one tenth of what the technique does and how it does it. I've found out through experience that it just about has to be witnessed. Some have gotten it through text and the videos, but not many. Hint- try to dub 'Ice Dub' into a caddisfly larva body. Use any technique you want to try to get a dense, segmented, tapered tail. Can't do it- easily at least. Then rope-dub it in 30 seconds. DonO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dubbing Marabou > Don, I'll check that out.. You don't use wire on all rope dubs do ya??? If > not, then does it ALWAYS need a "core" ? Like thread or some other material > if not wire??? 28 on a 28.. I'd like to see that fer sure, Chuck > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 2:05 PM > Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dubbing Marabou > > > > Chuck, > > > > Lefty was demo-ing right before me two years ago in Denver, just after his > > heart attack and stroke. > > > > He demo'd that tie you're describing, but he didn't rope-dub around the > > wire > > like I do. He just twisted the chennille and hackle to make a rope. When > > you rope on the wire as a core, it gives you a lot of alternatives for > > tying. See the VFB site for the all-in-one wooly-bugger tie in the > > rope-dub > > article. > > > > As far as short flies go, I can get 28 segments rope-dubbed on a #28 dry > > fly > > hook. > > > > Not many people 'get' the technique until they see it in person. It's > > just > > too easy to jump-assume that it's like the other techniques. > > > > DonO > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chuck Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:59 AM > > Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dubbing Marabou > > > > > >> DonO: The other night I took apart some of the hooks you sent me that you > >> had demo'd the rope dub.. I peeled back the wire and the rope dub "light" > >> came on .. It finally makes since to Me.. Then I saw a video where Lefty > >> Kreh basically tied in a "rope dubbed" wooly bugger, to make it where you > >> can catch 100 fish on one fly.. He took a black and a yellow strand of > >> chenille, and the hackle feather.. Tied them in at the back of the hook > >> as > >> normal, then twisted them into a rope, and tied them all in TOGETHER, and > >> lie he said, it wasn't as pretty as a real good spiraled in "Normal" > >> wooly > >> bugger, but your hackles (and the "roped" chenille) would last ten times > > as > >> long as normal..I'm gonna have to give it a try now that I see it.. I am > >> still having trouble picturing how you'd rope in short stuff like the > > hares > >> mask.. But the longer stuff I now "see the light" er, uh, "see the rope" > >> LOL.. Chuck > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:54 PM > >> Subject: Re: [VFB] Rope-dubbing Marabou > >> > >> > >> > Tony, > >> > > >> > I do the same thing, but I 'rope-dub' it. The looks come out same as > >> > yours, > >> > except that the marabou dubbing 'rope' has a wire core. A thick wire > >> > gives > >> > it weight and a thin wire is less weight, but both are bullet-proof for > >> > teeth. If I want it for dry flies, I just use my tying mono for the > > core, > >> > and I get durability and zero extra weight. > >> > > >> > I showed Pete Gramps how to do it at the NJ Symposium. > >> > > >> > DonO > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Anthony Spezio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > To: <[email protected]> > >> > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:47 PM > >> > Subject: Re: [VFB] Stackign Marabou > >> > > >> > > >> >> Chuck, > >> >> I tie a one marabou plume fly. Preen all the fibers to > >> >> the top. Tie in so that that end is a short stubby > >> >> tail. Twist the plume counter clockwise so that it > >> >> forms a "rope'. Lay it back and over wrap with thread > >> >> so that it covers the tie in wrap. Wrap the rope fwd > >> >> on the shank for the body. The tighter you twist the > >> >> rope the more segmented the body will be. Tie off > >> >> behind the eye. Lift that end of the plume back and > >> >> over wrap to form the head. Clip off about 1/4 to 3/8" > >> >> from the head. This will lay back for the wing. Seems > >> >> like olive and Orange are good colors. > >> >> --- Chuck Alexander > >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > Folks: When spinning the deer hair, and watching > >> >> > video of it being stacked, it made me think.. Why > >> >> > not "stack" marabou on Wooly buggers..Say if you are > >> >> > tying a black and yellow "Yellow Jacket" pattern. > >> >> > with yellow and black marabou... Why not tie in > >> >> > yellow and black marabou.. Anybody do this??? Is it > >> >> > effective??? If so, in what colors?? Thanks in > >> >> > advance, Chuck > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > >> > ________ > >> >> Do you Yahoo!? > >> >> Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! 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