Larry, Some guys like the turned up eye because it raises the leader off of the water for a few inches, giving a leaderless area in front of the fly (old school). This is more effective for lake fishing when the fish have a long time to inspect the fly- if you tie a tight knot. For rivers, as you mentioned, drag is the enemy. I've been lightly greasing flourocarbon tippet for the first foot and then letting the rest float as normal ( on turned-down eye hooks). This also gives a leaderless presentation to the fish, and I can use heavier tippets, since they're invisible (unless you over-grease with Zink). Even a light tippet leaves a huge footprint on the surface, where the water tension attaches to it. The 'drowned tippet' method (only with flourocarbon) has worked very well. Sink too much tippet and you'll drown the fly with every pickup or little bit of drag.
DonO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [VFB] hooks > Ed: I have always like the way my dry flies (Adams, Cahills, etc) look > tied on a dry fly hook with a turned up eye. (Is it Mustad 94842 or > 94845?) However, with the eye turned up, the leader knot in the eye is > raised even higher above the water. If you have any drag on the leader > and fly, (I may be the only one who experiences drag during the > presentation) this tends to bring the knot and eye down to the water and > the fly doesn't ride on the water correctly. The nose is down and the > tail is vertical. I have stopped using the turned up eye hooks. > > Larry Johnson > Springville, Utah > > > >>> "DonO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4/20/2007 10:05 AM >>> > Ed, > > There are a lot of variables that have to enter into the discussion, > and then opinions will vary: > > Hook shank length > Type of knot used > Size of hook > Species of target fish > Fly-wet or dry, streamer, deep running, shallow > Live bait, dead bait, > Circle-hook, semi-circle, curved, kirbed, etc. > > Don > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ed Ward > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 4:53 PM > Subject: [VFB] hooks > > > Besides the obvious what's the difference in fly hook eyes > angle or straight any advantages or disadvantages. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? > Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.4/768 - Release Date: > 4/19/2007 5:32 AM > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.5.5/769 - Release Date: 4/19/2007 5:56 PM > >
