I don't think this is what you are describing but it is neat.

http://www.solarexpert.com/fishing/Tying-Realistic-Stonefly-Nymph.html

Or these two in the middle of the page

http://globalflyfisher.com/patterns/real_enough/

Another that is not quite it

http://opax-flyfishing.blogspot.com/2007/05/realistic-stonefly-tied-by-tomas.html

This guy is good.

http://www.canflyfish.com/beamishgoldenstone.asp

Last one

http://www.westfly.com/patterns/wet/rockynymph.shtml

These don't sound like what you said but that was the best I could do.

Mike


On 7/16/07, Mark Beresford II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

well DonO im not the tyer, and i have searched my books too, nothing
matching your description, sorry.... but i would LOVE to see the pattern
once there found, if you mind sharing.

Mark.

*DonO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:

Looking for a fly pattern or two:

Went again to Miracle Mile this weekend, and the water was at high level
and very cloudy and fast, so fishing wasn't spectacular to say the least.
If I put on enough weight to reach the bottom, it snagged fairly quick.

Met a guy dunking worms with his 8 yr old son, and struck up a
friendship.  They were using Colorado meat rigs, i.e. fly rods with
automatic reels and mono line, with split shot and either a crawler or a
rock worm.  I gave the little guy some flies which included a scud, and he
proceeded to catch a 3-lb sucker and an almost 5lb carp on the scud.  The
night before he caught and landed a 2.7lb brown on a rock worm larva.

Here's the descriptions:

1.  The 'rock-worm' was dark mottled gray/olive and about two inches
long.  Can't locate a pattern for it.  Looked like it might be some sort of
crane-fly larva, but fairly dark.   I found green caddis larva patterns
called 'rock worms' but these aren't them, as these were again 2" long.  It
looks at first glance like an earth worm, but has the texture of a
caterpillar.

2.  The second was an interesting stonefly pattern found by the boy along
the river.  It had been lost by someone, and was an excellent tie.  It was a
'standard' curved stonefly with the bugskin overtail wrap and folded-over
wingcases of the same material, rubber knotted legs, and lace ribbing over
the tail for segments, and under-ribbing over the dubbing body of green
wire.  It could have been classified as a realistic.

Here's the kicker-  Can't tell what the fly was tied on, but it had the
bend of a large sedge-style hook, with a hump in the back where the 1st
wingcase started.  It had a hook eye, but no underhook beyond the tail.
Instead, it had a small softwire (like bite leader) loop coming out the butt
end with a gold bead slipped over the loop secure against the tail, then in
the loop was a small heavy short-shanked hook, probably a #6, but more of a
bait hook than a fly hook.  The hook was just loose enough in the
loop behind the bead to swivel easily, and the bead kept it aligned and from
fouling forward. The bead had the weight to keep the tail of the fly
pointing down while drifting.

I'm thinking it was tied on a sedge hook and then the bend was nipped off
real short to the tail, and if the tail was super-glued on while tying, it
would hold, but if it slipped (which it hadn't) the bead would hold it from
sliding more.

I think I'll draw the fly up from memory and scan it to a jpeg, if anyone
needs to see it, but I'm hoping someone knows of the pattern and tier.  I
can't remember seeing this fly commercially made, but I have done similar
trailer-hook attachments, though never with a bead.  I'm not sure what to
call it, and my net searches have turned up zip.

Any help appreciated.

DonO



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