That was worth while reading ,Thanks

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jerry Goldsmith
Sent: Fri 11/2/2007 6:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [VFB] Back from California



On Behalf Of Chuck Alexander
Subject: Re: [VFB] Back from California

 

I want to go to Panama City FL ASAP now that I got a car that I think will make 
it ....... i too, have me some big ol flies to try, and my 9wt rod and reel, 
but I'm wondering how in the world those guy cast into that EVER PRESENT 20-30 
MPH  wind coming in

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I do a fair amount of surf casting and can pass on a few tips.

1.      I  use either shooting heads or Jim Teeny lines.  My favorite set up 
for casting on the beaches in east central Florida is an eight weight rod 
loaded with a 10 way intermediate shooting head.  When the bigger fish are in.  
I will go with a nine or even 10 weight rod, and 11 or 12 weight shooting 
heads.  Even with the wind in your face.  The short amount of line in the air 
as you gather speed for the final cast helps a great deal in getting distance.

 

2.        you really do not have to make long casts.  I am constantly surprised 
at surf casters, who will walk into the water up to their knees and then try to 
cast 70 or 80 feet.  The vast majority of the fish that I have caught were done 
by me standing on dry sand or  at most an inch or two in the water and 
quartering my casts so that I was fishing the trough behind  the first wave.  
Meaning that my most productive casts are no more than 40 or 50 feet.

 

3.         if the wind is really hard in your face. You have to adapt your cast 
as follows.  On your initial forecast do not advance the line.  The only thing 
you want from the first forward cast is to gather a little line speed.  On your 
back cast you can  shoot  line. If you are using a shooting head or a Teeny at 
this point,  You would simply cast forward. If you are using a weight forward 
line,  you might false cast forward again, AGAIN NOT SHOOTING OR ADVANCING ANY 
LINE INTO THE WIND, shoot more line on the next BACKCAST, and then complete the 
cast in the forward direction. 

 

4.         A. Final technique that that is easier to do than TO describe 
involves the same technique described as above. i.e. not advancing line, as you 
forward cast, only on the back cast.  It also however involves keeping the line 
moving in what I would describe as an elliptical orbit.  So you are not 
stopping and starting as a means of loading the rod.  Rather the rod and line 
are kept in constant motion much as one does in Spey casting.  I believe this 
technique is called a Belgian cast, although I'm not sure.  I do know it is 
remarkably successful.

 

Obviously, if the wind is hard at your back , you simply turn around, drive the 
forward cast into the wind, and then just sort of throw your backwards cast up 
into the winds and let it sail into the water.

 

Finally I think as you try surf casting with a fly rod, you will be amazed at 
how many fish you catch making very short casts,  just beyond the first wave 
break. 

 

 Hope that helps 

 

JG

 

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