Or, if you use a "fold and lock" tie in (make a loose wrap or two over the
hackle stem, then take the hackle stem's butt and 'fold it' back towards the
tip of the hackle, then wrap over everything - both 'strands' of hackle stem
- to 'lock' into place), you can simply strip the hackle stem for 1/4 to
even 1/2 inch or so (instead of the trim you mention) and use some of that
1/2 inch for the tie- in.  That way, when you start the wrap, there's a
little bit of "stripped hackle stem" left after the tie-in (obviously
without barbs) that will give the leeway needed when you start to palmer.
  I only mention the 'fold and lock' method because without it (that is, if
you just wrap over the hackle - the "normal type 1" method, as  Paul Mariner
words it in the 'how to choose fly tying threads' pamphlet), the absence of
the trimmed barbs will, over repeated wet-dry cycles of using the fly, allow
the hackle to eventually pull out (of course, that relies on me not catching
a tree with it, first...).  Just my personal opinion and experience, as I
find that I tend to err on the side of caution when it comes to applying
thread tension while tying - your results may vary.
Hope that makes sense and helps more than confuses.  Tight wraps,
Pete

On Dec 27, 2007 8:52 PM, Mark Beresford II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> strip half the feather before tying it in.
> or trim once tied in before the palmering.
>
> Mark.
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Folks: I have been tying some Griffiths Gnats..To tie in the hackle
> feather to the back of the hook to start the palmering forward, I trim the
> barbs real short for about 1/16th of an inch (cause it's on a #18 hook), tie
> that in from front to back. Then, I take my thread back to the front of the
> hook, towards the eye..When I make a sharp right  turn to wrap clockwise
> towards the eye, a few of the barbs stick straight back, and up at an angle,
> then start getting into the normal palmered position and goes on up the
> hook, where I tie it off at the hook eye.. Those few wild hairs kinda look
> like a tail, so it's not that back, but my question was, how do you tie in
> the hackle so that you don't get those few stray hairs??? Anybody see what
> I'm saying??? Thanks, Chuck
>
>
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