On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 05:07:30PM -0400, Jean-Marc Valin wrote:
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> Hi Steinar, Thomas,
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> I saw your new constrained low pass filter draft for Thor and decided
> to start experimenting with it. Putting the filter in Daala, I saw a
> PSNR bd-rate improvement around 2.1% in the 0.05 bpp to 0.1 bpp range
> over our ntt-short1 test set (I disabled our deringing filter for this
> comparison to avoid the interactions). However, I was unable to see
> improvements of 4-7% like you are reporting in the draft.
> 
> Of course, it's quite likely that I messed up the implementation or
> the adaptation to Daala. It's also possible that somehow Daala cannot
> benefit from the CLP as much as Thor does. This is the code I wrote
> for filtering a small block of pixels:
> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8850049
> I've had to do some adaptation since the Daala pixels are shifted up
> by 4 at the point where we're applying the filter. Does this look
> correct to you?
> 
> The other experiment that would be nice to try is using the Daala
> deringing filter in Thor. In Daala, our deringing filter is improving
> PSNR bd-rate by about a 6.5% in the 0.05 bpp to 0.1 bpp range. The
> deringing filter is documented in this IETF draft:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-valin-netvc-deringing-00
> or (for those who don't like ASCII equations) in this pdf:
> http://jmvalin.ca/notes/dir_dering.pdf
> I uploaded some still image examples at:
> http://jmvalin.ca/video/deringing_examples/
> Any interest in trying the Daala deringing filter in Thor?

Looking at chapel subjectively, I think an option to use a weaker
filter would be helpful.

Generally, the filter gives good subjective results. But some of
the details might get lost (e.g. the last steps leading to the chapel).

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