So the deringing filter is also used as a post-filter, i.e. not in the 
prediction loop?  

Regards,

Minhua


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Daala does not have a deblcking filter, but rather a lapping post-filter. 
Deringing is applied after the lapping post-filter.

Cheers,

        Jean-Marc

On 11/02/2015 05:35 AM, Dake He wrote:
> ‎In the results reported in the document, does the reference codec 
> have deblocking enabled? Maybe this was addressed before. But I cannot 
> seem to locate it.
> 
> Best, Dake Original Message From: Jean-Marc Valin Sent: Thursday, 
> October 29, 2015 1:39 PM To: Mohammad AlSaleh; [email protected] 
> Subject: Re: [video-codec] Daala deringing filter vs Thor constrained 
> low pass filter
> 
> 
> On 10/29/2015 12:41 PM, Mohammad AlSaleh wrote:
>> Looking at chapel subjectively, I think an option to use a weaker 
>> filter would be helpful.
>> 
>> Generally, the filter gives good subjective results. But some of the 
>> details might get lost (e.g. the last steps leading to the chapel).
> 
> It isn't really a matter of stronger vs weaker filter. The encoder can 
> turn the deringing filter on/off for every superblock, so any issue 
> would come down to how the encoder made the decision to keep the 
> filtered superblock. For example, the distortion function could be 
> missing something, or the encoder could be deciding to "sacrifice" 
> some region of the superblock to make another region better.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jean-Marc
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