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> Eric Jorgensen wrote:
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> > It's the seedy biker
> > bar of irc networks.
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> And what's wrong with them?
Nothing, it just depends what you're there for. A seedy biker bar
is not condusive to things like knitting circles.
Don't get me wrong, there was a time when I really enjoyed the
rough atmosphere of efnet. About two years ago, before Mike linux-dot-org
McLagan took over #os/2. That place used to be a ton of fun. Good strong
technical discussion, plenty of enjoyment in beating the virtual tar out
of pasing scriptkiddies. (Don't dick around with a channel where at least
15 of the ops have T1 or greater internet access, and know more about your
vounerabilities than you do.)
Then Mike "I'm gonna unilaterally start a for-pay linux standards
group" McLagan decided that if his REAL life was already gone to crap then
for darn sure he'd have order in his *VIRTUAL* life. Man, that guy's a
killjoy. (Sorry, I'm still bitter, Mike's a prick. And i strongly believe
the world would be a better place if he sought professional help. That
man's got issues.)
So those of us who who didn't quite see the point in the newly
jackbooted #os/2 formed another channel, and kept it +S.
And when the splits got to be too bad, and when the ircops got
dumber and dumber and more and more officious, we moved the entire channel
to another network.
All that aside, there are technical reasons to avoid efnet.
Mostly, it's very hard to connect to efnet if you are behind a firewall
that you do not personally controll. Almost all efnet servers require
pidentd. Pidentd made a lot of sense 10 years ago but accomplishes next to
nothing today. Also, most efnet servers won't allow you to connect if your
firewall allows connections to port 1080. If they were smart, they'd have
the wingate detector actually request a proxy and see if it gets one, but
they don't. Many people behind corporate firewalls have no way to address
these issiues, which makes it very difficult to connect to efnet. if
idle.net or mcs.net goes down or splits, you're out of luck.
EFNet also suffers from almost as much political infighting
between the ops as DALnet. I mean, good greif, there's actually a
coalition of canadian efnet operators.
All that being said, openprojects.net is an irc network
specifically for (drumroll, please): Open Projects.
Topically speaking, openprojects.net is the right place to put it.
It's also more stable, and has more coherent ops.
Anyway, it's up to someone else where it goes. I've never gotten
much mileage out of that sort of irc channel anyway.
- Eric
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