I thought it was generally implied. irc.openprojects.net is a
round-robin DNS for their srevers. 

 - Eric

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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eric Jorgensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 2:33 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: IRC
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Eric Jorgensen wrote:
> > > 
> > > > It's the seedy biker
> > > > bar of irc networks.
> > > 
> > > And what's wrong with them?
> > 
> > 
> >     Nothing, it just depends what you're there for. A seedy 
> > biker bar
> > is not condusive to things like knitting circles. 
> > 
> >     Don't get me wrong, there was a time when I really enjoyed the
> > rough atmosphere of efnet. About two years ago, before Mike 
> > linux-dot-org 
> > McLagan took over #os/2. That place used to be a ton of fun. 
> > Good strong
> > technical discussion, plenty of enjoyment in beating the 
> > virtual tar out
> > of pasing scriptkiddies. (Don't dick around with a channel 
> > where at least
> > 15 of the ops have T1 or greater internet access, and know 
> > more about your
> > vounerabilities than you do.)
> > 
> >     Then Mike "I'm gonna unilaterally start a for-pay linux 
> > standards
> > group" McLagan decided that if his REAL life was already gone 
> > to crap then
> > for darn sure he'd have order in his *VIRTUAL* life. Man, that guy's a
> > killjoy. (Sorry, I'm still bitter, Mike's a prick. And i 
> > strongly believe
> > the world would be a better place if he sought professional help. That
> > man's got issues.)
> > 
> >     So those of us who who didn't quite see the point in the newly
> > jackbooted #os/2 formed another channel, and kept it +S. 
> > 
> >     And when the splits got to be too bad, and when the ircops got
> > dumber and dumber and more and more officious, we moved the 
> > entire channel
> > to another network. 
> > 
> >     All that aside, there are technical reasons to avoid efnet.
> > Mostly, it's very hard to connect to efnet if you are behind 
> > a firewall
> > that you do not personally controll. Almost all efnet servers require
> > pidentd. Pidentd made a lot of sense 10 years ago but 
> > accomplishes next to
> > nothing today. Also, most efnet servers won't allow you to 
> > connect if your
> > firewall allows connections to port 1080. If they were smart, 
> > they'd have
> > the wingate detector actually request a proxy and see if it 
> > gets one, but
> > they don't. Many people behind corporate firewalls have no 
> > way to address
> > these issiues, which makes it very difficult to connect to efnet. if
> > idle.net or mcs.net goes down or splits, you're out of luck. 
> > 
> >     EFNet also suffers from almost as much political infighting
> > between the ops as DALnet. I mean, good greif, there's actually a
> > coalition of canadian efnet operators. 
> > 
> >     All that being said, openprojects.net is an irc network
> > specifically for (drumroll, please): Open Projects. 
> > 
> >     Topically speaking, openprojects.net is the right place 
> > to put it.
> > It's also more stable, and has more coherent ops. 
> > 
> >     Anyway, it's up to someone else where it goes. I've never gotten
> > much mileage out of that sort of irc channel anyway. 
> > 
> >  - Eric
> > 
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