Couldn't find openprojects.net. Please respond via personal email re: how to connect. > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Jorgensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 2:33 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: IRC > > > > > > Eric Jorgensen wrote: > > > > > It's the seedy biker > > > bar of irc networks. > > > > And what's wrong with them? > > > Nothing, it just depends what you're there for. A seedy > biker bar > is not condusive to things like knitting circles. > > Don't get me wrong, there was a time when I really enjoyed the > rough atmosphere of efnet. About two years ago, before Mike > linux-dot-org > McLagan took over #os/2. That place used to be a ton of fun. > Good strong > technical discussion, plenty of enjoyment in beating the > virtual tar out > of pasing scriptkiddies. (Don't dick around with a channel > where at least > 15 of the ops have T1 or greater internet access, and know > more about your > vounerabilities than you do.) > > Then Mike "I'm gonna unilaterally start a for-pay linux > standards > group" McLagan decided that if his REAL life was already gone > to crap then > for darn sure he'd have order in his *VIRTUAL* life. Man, that guy's a > killjoy. (Sorry, I'm still bitter, Mike's a prick. And i > strongly believe > the world would be a better place if he sought professional help. That > man's got issues.) > > So those of us who who didn't quite see the point in the newly > jackbooted #os/2 formed another channel, and kept it +S. > > And when the splits got to be too bad, and when the ircops got > dumber and dumber and more and more officious, we moved the > entire channel > to another network. > > All that aside, there are technical reasons to avoid efnet. > Mostly, it's very hard to connect to efnet if you are behind > a firewall > that you do not personally controll. Almost all efnet servers require > pidentd. Pidentd made a lot of sense 10 years ago but > accomplishes next to > nothing today. Also, most efnet servers won't allow you to > connect if your > firewall allows connections to port 1080. If they were smart, > they'd have > the wingate detector actually request a proxy and see if it > gets one, but > they don't. Many people behind corporate firewalls have no > way to address > these issiues, which makes it very difficult to connect to efnet. if > idle.net or mcs.net goes down or splits, you're out of luck. > > EFNet also suffers from almost as much political infighting > between the ops as DALnet. I mean, good greif, there's actually a > coalition of canadian efnet operators. > > All that being said, openprojects.net is an irc network > specifically for (drumroll, please): Open Projects. > > Topically speaking, openprojects.net is the right place > to put it. > It's also more stable, and has more coherent ops. > > Anyway, it's up to someone else where it goes. I've never gotten > much mileage out of that sort of irc channel anyway. > > - Eric > > > -- > To unsubscribe: mail > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > "unsubscribe" as the Subject. > -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.
