The short answer to this is.. unique IPs that hit multiple times over 
the last 24 hour period. That's what I can determine to be feedburner's 
technique.

That, at least, is how I'm going to be doing the calculation. =)

It doesn't account for aggregators that cache, NAT'd IPs, or anything of 
the like. But without some kind of cookie-ing system, you're probably 
not going to be able to do that.

>I'm not sure how this topic got so confused ... :-P
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>The question asked was NOT "how can I get detailed viewer stats that
>have enough data I could use it when talking to
>marketing/sponsorship/advertisemnt/etc people" ... the question was
>simply "has anyone figured out a way to get feedburner like subscriber
>estimations without using feedburner" ... and I have ... so I replied.
> That was the sole question I tried to answer.  "yes I have made a
>system that estimates subscribers similar to how I imagine feedburner
>does it" (maybe better :-P)
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>I didnt even try to answer any other questions about how to track
>viewers/hits/downloads etc to such a level that sponsors or
>advertisers would like to see.  I never claimed to be able to provide
>those stats in any 'report'.  It was a question about subsrciber
>estimates ala feedburner ... and that the only thing I said I could
>provide.
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>Somewhere it jumped topics ... a which point I only meant to say that
>a simple estimation of subscribers (not some detailed market data
>report) ... does not require knowledge of how many times a file was
>actually viewed, and that with some decent logic built in can minimize
>the effects of NAT'd IPs in the calculations.  No you can't get a
>perfect number ... but you cna get close. (and again, the question was
>about subscriber estimates ala feedburner ... if you already know
>thats not what you're looking for, than any similar solution is again
>... not going to be what your looking for)
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>Most vloggers are not looking (yet) for market data they can show to
>advertisers or sponsors ... and I dont think thats what the question
>that started this was asking for.
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>Now, if you want that Andrew, then yes I totally agree with you that a
>simple subscriber estimation isn't going to cut the mustard and would
>be misleading ... but not everyone is rocketboom.  :-P  Some of us
>still get a nice warm fuzzy feeling for servicing our 15 viewers, and
>are happy to have rough estimation for our own use.
>
>pinging a server on a view is an interesting idea, but again ...
>viewers != subscribers.
>
>- Dave
>http://www.davidmeade.com
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