Sorry Sull, I did try to search for it this morning, but that's what I get for reacting to things without sufficient caffeine in my system.
On 1/10/06, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > right. > the last thread on this a month or 2 or 3 or 4 ago.... i suggested a > proactive solution where the site had a clear path to Kid-friendly content, > Adult content and some other filtered areas... where much else falls under > the normalized flow of categories and tags. Yes, you can still 'see' stuff > from anywhere but at least their would be less surprises and angered/turned > off users. > > sull > > > On 1/10/06, Bill Streeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I would say that you should consult with the porn site owners and > > get their input. I wouldn't think that they would want their stuff > > accessed by kids any more than you do. > > > > I think Richards biggest issue seemed to be that MeFeedia seemed to > > arbitrarily pick his feed out for labeling without consulting with > > him first. A little communication can go a long way. He's a long > > time member of this community and has contributed a lot to it. > > > > I think on solution to the problem could be just smarter directory > > structure (not easy I know) that makes sure that people see what > > they want to see without censoring the content producers or creating > > adult ghetto categories. > > > > Bill Streeter > > LO-FI SAINT LOUIS > > www.lofistl.com > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Michael Sullivan > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > the first porn sites were added to vlogdir.com last week. > > > that prompted me to add an Adult Content category. > > > > > > i can add a custom wrapper on that category to do a number of > > things... such > > > as warnings, agreements and so-called age check, access > > restriction until a > > > request is made to gain access, or do nothing (current status). > > > > > > i just have not made a final decision yet. i think it may depend > > on the > > > type of porn site... the ones added to vlogdir.com were typical > > porn sites > > > with a front being a videoblog... as a teaser... which lead you > > into joining > > > as a member etc.... > > > other sites may just be adult content, some porny stuff, but not > > that > > > typical porn network concept. > > > > > > too busy to put effort into any one approach here... but soon i > > will make > > > some sort of adjustment WITHOUT censoring honest works. > > > this may include 'the video stores back porn room' approach.... > > getting in > > > may require a request to adjust member permissions. > > > > > > i know sites like the one added to vlogdir dont give a shit about > > > vlogging... there just trying to make money. i dont feel much > > concern for > > > them... > > > but stuff like madge puts out... that HAS a place here! > > > > > > sull > > > > > > On 1/10/06, Devlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Let's talk. > > > > > > > > It's a hot topic right now since our (Mefeedia) site chose one > > method > > > > to make the site 'safe for work' etc. > > > > > > > > Disclaimer: I want to talk as an individual, not as someone > > affiliated > > > > with Mefeedia. That being said... > > > > > > > > There is a post on the Mefeedia blog that pointed out how > > content that > > > > might not be safe for work is handled. The author of the post > > picked > > > > the first feed that they came across, it was never meant to > > single out > > > > anyone. Apologies for singling out anyone that was not the > > intent at > > > > all. > > > > > > > > I've spent the morning listening to Richard's podcast. And he's > > > > asking questions...I have some answers, as an individual, not as > > a > > > > spokesperson of mefeedia. > > > > > > > > Why do we need do cover up images like a vagina smoking a > > cigarette > > > > (for example)? Personally, I know that kids will find porn > > online, > > > > that's not why I feel some images need to be categorized > > or 'covered > > > > up'. I feel it is important for browsing at work or something > > like > > > > that, maybe over at my parent's places, etc. So here I am > > browsing > > > > around and I get explicit images on the screen, my boss comes in > > my > > > > office and thinks I am browsing porn. > > > > > > > > I have no problem with porn, trust me...you should see my > > > > collection...It has nothing to do with monetization, etc. It's > > about > > > > having a site that everyone can use anywhere, in a school, in a > > > > library, etc. > > > > > > > > Freedom of speech is thrown around right and left, but if a > > review of > > > > someone's feed isn't appreciated, then it's 'a bad' review, or > > > > un-fair. How does that work? > > > > > > > > I have questions. How do the other sites handle content? How > > do we > > > > as a community make sites that everyone, anyone can watch > > anywhere? > > > > > > > > There are several feeds that have been flagged as potential adult > > > > content, not just the one, there are 25 of them. But I agree > > that > > > > there should be some dialog with the producers of the feeds > > before > > > > they get flagged, that's where Mefeedia did go wrong, agreed. > > The > > > > process is being refined. It's not the content of the video > > that I > > > > feel needs to be indentified, it's the thumbnails. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ~Devlon > > > > Blog: <http://devlond.blogspot.com> > > > > Vlog: <http://8bitme.blogspot.com> > > > > > > > > < http://mefeedia.com> -OR- <http://mefeedia.com/blog> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > sull > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > "The hybrid or the meeting of two media is a moment of truth and > > revelation > > > from which new form is born" > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > http://vlogdir.com - The Videoblog Directory > > > http://videobloggers.org - Free Videoblog Hosting / Vlogosphere > > Aggregator > > > http://interdigitate.com - on again off again personal vlog > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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