On 2/22/06, Chuck Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm with Chuck. I think sometimes the fair use argument needs to be tested (although, I'm not sure Zadi's would hold up, at least on the green day side of things...the footage yes).
The center for social media (http://www.centerforsocialmedia.org) published a very good "Best Practices For Fair Use" that would an interesting thread topic.
And on the other hand, I think we should be using podsafe music as a matter of principle as well. If we want to start sowing the future with work that others can freely sample, we have to make completely CC Safe stuff, music included.
Not sure about Deidre's argument - just because you like a song, or its the best one for your vlog, doesn't qualify it as fair use. Now, if you want to push or argue for some ammendment to the law that makes an exemption for personal or non-commercial use, I could get behind that. The problem there is where do you draw the line? Would you want someone using your work in a homophobic film, or a KKK video? My personal feelings tend toward anarchy, but I'm not sure you can build a system on that :)
By the way, you guys are LUCKY to have this argument. In Canada, our fair use rights are extremely narrow.
and PS, sorry couldn't change the title of the thread, gmail doesn't seem to allow that when you reply?
It's absolutely a good idea to make your own music, or find/buy
royalty-free podsafe music. If you do anything else, you're taking
a risk. But also keep in mind, the boundaries of Fair Use have not
been fully tested in court. I sometimes choose to take the risk
on my non-commercial personal vlog, crediting the artist, rather
than inhibit my creativity. No cease-and-desists, so far.
I'm with Chuck. I think sometimes the fair use argument needs to be tested (although, I'm not sure Zadi's would hold up, at least on the green day side of things...the footage yes).
The center for social media (http://www.centerforsocialmedia.org) published a very good "Best Practices For Fair Use" that would an interesting thread topic.
And on the other hand, I think we should be using podsafe music as a matter of principle as well. If we want to start sowing the future with work that others can freely sample, we have to make completely CC Safe stuff, music included.
Not sure about Deidre's argument - just because you like a song, or its the best one for your vlog, doesn't qualify it as fair use. Now, if you want to push or argue for some ammendment to the law that makes an exemption for personal or non-commercial use, I could get behind that. The problem there is where do you draw the line? Would you want someone using your work in a homophobic film, or a KKK video? My personal feelings tend toward anarchy, but I'm not sure you can build a system on that :)
By the way, you guys are LUCKY to have this argument. In Canada, our fair use rights are extremely narrow.
and PS, sorry couldn't change the title of the thread, gmail doesn't seem to allow that when you reply?
The perfect example of a potentially legitimate use of copyrighted
music is Zadi's "When September Ends" video, which was written
about in the NY Times Critic's Notebook:
http://smashface.com/vlog/20050924nytimes.html
Then of course there's my "Welcome to the Future" video
which deals with this whole clash between copyright and our
desire to capture, share, remix:
http://blogumentary.typepad.com/vlog/2005/03/videoblog_week__2.html
Keep in mind Zadi and I could hear from record company lawyers.
Maybe we could get the EFF to defend, but more likely it's
easier to simply remove the video. Worst case scenario would be
having to pay a fine, if the RIAA charges we're illiegally distributing
music. That would suck.
-chuck
http://mnstories.com
--- In [email protected], Pete Prodoehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> And I really wish it would stop. I cringe every time I see a video by
> someone in this group that is using music they obviously do not have the
> right to use. If we are supposed to be here helping newbies get into
> videoblogging, what sort of example does that set?
>
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