Steve, I think that for the time being at least there's a manageable
group of worthwhile aggregation destinations, and it's possible for us
to offer opt-in and opt-out from them within the dashboard.  Moving
forward we may go to a more freeform system, where we allow people to
opt-in or out based on arbitrary strings in referrer tags or
organization identifiers in MediaRSS.  I don't think we're at the point
where the standards are sufficiently mature or there are enough players
for this to be necessary, though.  Soon, probably.

This has happened four times in a major way, and maybe half a dozen in
more subdued ways.  We need to develop a set of best practices, followed
by technology to enforce those best practices from the content creator
and distributor level.  We're working to pioneer both sides of that
conversation, and we've had repeated engagements with folks to try to
set those standards.

As it happens I'm sitting down with Heavy's CEO and CTO next Wednesday
to discuss these very issues.  It's time for the crowd to recommend
solutions.  MyHeavy is now willing to play ball by your rules.  Write
the rules.  I'll convey them.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Watkins
> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 1:51 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger 
> CC Licenses
> 
> Cheers for the info :) This means there is no technical 
> barrier for 3rd parties to get this licence info from the 
> same source they are getting details of the video, which is 
> great. So for example when there was a hooha about 
> network2.tv not showing the license details on the page, they 
> could get this info from the same place they get the links 
> etc, which is good to know.
> 
> Regarding the proposed options for blip.tv users to specify 
> which services their stuff can be re-embedded in, it might 
> get painful if it ends up with a huge list of sites to opt in 
> or out of. Perhaps another way would just be to give people 
> the option to give away one more right in addition to the 
> ones they grant via creative commons choices. 
> 
> Something like 'creative commons whatever + noncommercial' 
> +mayadd adverts. So thats the same as a normal CC licence but 
> also with the option to grant the right to reshow the video 
> with adverts. Is there any scope for clearly defining 
> specific rights as part of MediaRSS type feeds? Hmm I think 
> my idea is half-baked, are there any people here who dont 
> mind there videos being reused on sites with adverts, that 
> could talk about this?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Steve Elbows
>   
> --- In [email protected], "Mike Hudack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Steve.  We do include the Creative Commons 
> information in the 
> > RSS feed.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected] 
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Watkins
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 1:05 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy.com Disregarding Vlogger CC 
> > > Licenses
> > > 
> > > On a related note, how can 3rd parties go about accessing the 
> > > creative commons or copyright licence attached to blip.tv 
> videos? Im 
> > > afraid I havent studied this to see what blip already 
> does, is the 
> > > cc stuff included in the blip RSS feed, or through an API if you 
> > > offer one?
> > > 
> > > And thanks again, though I dont use blip or make any video, you 
> > > definately deserve some sort of award for listening, responding & 
> > > helping, a shining example for all other web services.
> > > 
> > > Steve Elbows
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "Mike Hudack" <mike@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > That is interesting.  I'm going to noodle on this.
> > > >
> > > 
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> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
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