Remember not all things can be defined technically nor should they be.
That's why they call it best practices... and that's why digital rights
management is such a crime against humanity.

You fundamentally can't really define fair use.  Certainly creative commons
has come a little closer to it... helping out to encourage collaboration
where standard copyright fails.

You could come up with technical points all day and I could give examples of
how they don't work. For example people don't always opt in... in the case
of many aggregators which are becoming popular these days for people trying
to keep track of all their RSS feeds... the users... the fans of the vlogger
or blogger or podcaster submit their feed so they can filter it... search
it... or get it somewhere where they can keep track of it with all their
other stuffs.  Such as the so called river of RSS concept.

The point is opt-in is definitely good for a lot of things... but for the
majority of services it doesn't work.

What if you were to blacklist a service like bloglines or google reader and
your friends used it.

That said... I do think blacklisting either in the refferer on the
webserver... or maybe a microstandard for blacklisting via the RSS feed is
not a bad idea.  Most people won't have problems with most services... it's
only on the occassion that you have a problem with a service that you should
have a mechanism to opt-out.  Ussually the best way to do that is just to
send them a cease and decist email or take legal action if it's really over
the top criminal.

In every good open system a little spam must fall. The world is not
perfect... this is all part of a dialogue about ettiquette.

Just be thankful you have a say... it's not like we have much of a say in
what apple is doing with our content in itunes the biggest video aggregator
around. Apple is clearly beyond the will of the vlogosphere and podcasting
space whereas MyHeavy is not. Take comfort in the fact that we're still an
integral part of this conversation.

BTW, this was on Digg just the other day. It's absolutely fascinating.

http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/000278.html

It's written about by and old school blogger about hotlinking nettiquette
comparing the myspace generation to the AOL generation that hit the net back
in the early days. Not only is it hilarious but it might lend a great
perspective on this whole idea of hotinking.  In this case people on myspace
were hotlinking to an image on his server in a myspace design template as a
window background pattern... which is to say for simple window dressing...
he switched the image to the goatse image if you can imagine. To me it's a
beutiful story about the clash of generations and cultures, and the forming
and shaping of netiquette... and some sort of cultural hegemony which says
something about myspace, aol.. and maybe youtube.  What happens when our
class and generational rifts are defined by companies?  We mine as well call
this the myspace/youtube generation... after all we've already had the MTV
generation.

So what does happen when we're all flying in the plane and none of us know
how to fly it or how to fix it or how it works?  What happens to our
blogosphere and vlogosphere when people know less and less about RSS, and
hosting, and all the subtlties that make vlogging go. I just hope they'll
always remain a balance in this new space as there is between independant
vloggers and myspacers... between vloggers and podcasters and youtubers...
just as there has grown a balance between open source hackers and
proprietary software.

It's the only hope we have of having some balance in power to keep some sort
of uncontrolable cultural hegomony driven by the centralization of media and
power.

Peace,

-Mike
mefeedia.com
mmeiser.com/blog/

On 1/5/07, Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> No, existing standard cover this space sufficiently. There is no need for
> creating a new standard. The problem is not a lack of a standard but lack
> of support (intentional or not) for existing standards in services (and
> lack of use of existing standards by creators).
>
> - Andreas
>
> Den 06.01.2007 kl. 02:53 skrev Kath O'Donnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > ahh. namespaces. for extending rss spec.
> > is that an option - for blip or the videoblogging community to define
> > it's
> > own namespaces then work with other aggregators so they support them
> > also?
> >
> > http://www.rssboard.org/rss-specification#extendingRss
> > http://www.disobey.com/detergent/2002/extendingrss2/
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/6/07, Kath O'Donnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> have an opt-out also for users to opt out of whole sites eg heavy
> >> opt-out="heavy.com"
> >>
> >>
> >> On 1/6/07, Kath O'Donnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > you almost need a 'taste' attribute with an opt-in override (user
> >> based
> >> > in addition to site) in the rss feed that the user/creator can fillin
> >> when
> >> > they post their work &/or as a sitewide option (so if u added another
> >> optin
> >> > u wouldn't need to go back an update all the existing postings)
> >> > licence= +non_commercial +non_dating_site +opt-in="fireant"
> >> > +opt-in="itunes"
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Andreas Haugstrup Pedersen
> <URL: http://www.solitude.dk/ >
>
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