I didn't think you were ignorant. Sorry if I gave you that impression. I was just not understanding why Jobs is touting Cingular...which is basically because they played ball with his company...so I was noting the business dog-and-pony show.
Really...sorry. I was just out to point out that it's a dog and pony show with no compelling technological reason. Sorry a third time. -- Rhett. http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime francisco_daum wrote: >Rhett- > >I wasn't ignorant of the fact the iPhone is going to be available in >June using Cingular. My point is that it's great the iPhone will be >introduced, and in 2000, Cingular was considered the new kid on the >block. Sprint shareholders were told Cingular was nothing to worry about >because they paid way too much for them to operate a mobile network, >did not have the Synchronous Optical Network Sprint had, and was using >in between technology at the time when Sprint PCS was all CDMA. On top >of all that Sprint told me its "pipes and tubes" were operating at >around 15% capacity because expansion was built in. > >Which brings in to mind that when these telcos start chipping away at >Net Neutrality, the bean counters have to look into the actual load >these networks (built with our taxes) are handling. I believe telcos >are just hoarding capacity. > >I wasn't ignorant of the fact the iPhone is going to be on Cingular; >for a young company compared to Sprint, they've got more to gain. Also >Apple not making a strictly widescreen iPod to me looks like a way to >get more people to use OS X (which I thoroughly enjoy for anything >media over Windows and Linux). So let me repeat I wasn't ignorant of >the fact the iPhone is going to be on Cingular. Ok? :) > >Francisco Daum >franciscodaum.com >franciscodaum.blogspot.com > > >--- In [email protected], "J. Rhett Aultman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > >>First off, he's touting Cingular because Apple signed a deal with >>Cingular. There need be no reason above that. Business partners stand >>up for each other. Secondly, he's touting Cingular because Cingular is >>the biggest of the US networks, so it made sense to strike on that >>iron. Finally, he's touting Cingular because Cingular did Apple a lot >>of favors when it came to developing the iPhone, so he's happy to have >>found people to work with. >> >>-- >>Rhett. >>http://www.weatherlight.com/freetime >> >>francisco_daum wrote: >> >> >> >>>When I was a Tech I for Sprint in 2001, the biggest selling point was >>>the dominance of its fiber optic backbone, from "Tier I all the way up >>>to Tier III". Sprint boasted having the mostest and the fastest OC-96 >>>fiber. Network capacity was below 15%. Cingular was laughed at because >>>it wasn't CDMA (Sprint wireless is strictly CDMA, except for roaming). >>>Cingular was paying the highest for its customers as far as air >>>rights, nothing to worry about. Today I'm a puzzled how Steve Jobs was >>>touting Cingular. >>>Francisco >>>franciscodaum.blogspot.com >>> >>>--- In [email protected], "Mike Meiser" >>><groups-yahoo-com@> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>The wimax is coming. And with it broadband communications. >>>> >>>>An actual firm date, by the end of this year. It's no longer just >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>vaporware. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>*Sprint Nextel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>Corp.*<http://kansascity.bizjournals.com/kansascity/gen/Sprint_Nextel_Corp_38D9B727DAD54EBE929378498D672ECA.html>said >> >> >>>Monday that will launch its WiMax wireless broadband service in Chicago >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>and Washington by year's end. >>>>> >>>>>The wireless giant (NYSE: S), which began showing off products >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>that use >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>WiMax technology on Monday at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>Vegas, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>has committed to spending $800 million this year and $1.5 billion >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>to $2 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>billion next year on the new WiMax network. >>>>> >>>>>The company said in a release Monday that early products that >>>>> >>>>> >will use > > >>>>>WiMax include mobile PCs and personal media players by *Samsung >>>>>Electronics >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>Co.*<http://kansascity.bizjournals.com/kansascity/gen/Samsung_Electronics_Co_0410697D58D74FAAA93930587D6236B6.html>and >> >> >>>an infotainment device by >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>*LG Electronics >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>Inc.*<http://kansascity.bizjournals.com/kansascity/gen/LG_Electronics_Inc_605CE10EFDA940E4B937F76CC1234CE2.html> >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>WiMax will allow devices to connect to the Internet at cable >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>modem-like >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>speeds wirelessly, in coverage areas similar to wireless phone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>service. An >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>MP3 player with WiMax capability, for example, would allow music >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>downloads >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>on the go. >>>>> >>>>>The WiMax network is expected to reach 100 million people by the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>end of >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>2008. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Wimax'ed networked mp3 players very interesting. >>>> >>>>After today's iPhone announcement with it's cellular and wifi >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>capabilites >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>I'm going to repeat my hair brained theories about direct to device >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>audio >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>and video podcast aggregation. >>>> >>>>Also of note. >>>> >>>>Nokia joins Sprint Nextel WiMax team >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>http://sanantonio.bizjournals.com/washington/stories/2007/01/01/daily29.html >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>Nokia, the world's biggest wireless-phone maker, will provide >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>equipment, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>including handsets and tablet computers, and do co-marketing for >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>the planned >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>WiMax network. >>>>> >>>>>Sprint says it may spend as much as $800 million developing its >>>>> >>>>> >fourth > > >>>>>generation, or 4G wireless network, this year and as much as $2 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>billion next >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>year. >>>>> >>>>>The company (NYSE: S) is developing the high-speed wireless >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>network using >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>the spectrum frequencies it owns. It says the WiMax network could >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>cover at >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>least 100 million potential users by the end of 2008. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Another good article on the Sprint Wimax network from Ars Technica >>>>http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070109-8582.html >>>> >>>>And a related article on Nokia's newly updated N93i >>>>http://www.mobilised.com.au/content/view/737/1/ >>>> >>>>Some choice quotes... >>>> >>>>Nokia has done a deal with Vox, the personal video and photo blogging >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>service from Six Apart <http://www.sixapart.com/>. Depending on your >>>>>country the phone may come pre-configured to use the service. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>With Vox users can share full size photo and video content with >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>enforceable >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>privacy controls. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>[...] >>>> >>>>"With devices such as the Nokia N93i, we believe that video can >>>> >>>> >become a > > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>similar kind of mass market phenomenon as mobile photography has >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>become," >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>said Satu Ehrnrooth, head of Nokia Nseries Cameras Category, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>Multimedia, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>Nokia. >>>>> >>>>>"The slim and beautiful Nokia N93i is the ideal device for >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>user-created >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>video content, as i is a connected digital camcorder that is >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>always with >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>you. You can even instantly upload video clips in their original size >>>>>directly from the device to online blogs or video communities. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>With the >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>Nokia N93i, sharing your stories is now as easy as recording and >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>viewing >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>them." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>It may be pretty early but videoblogging and video sharing are >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>definitely >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>going to move beyond the desktop sooner or later... it's starting. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Call it >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>the mobile web or whatever you like. It's coming via wifi, wimax, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>and/or >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>wirless. One way or the other. >>>> >>>>I'm still waiting for blip to make an mobile compatible service that >>>>automatically adds on an intro segment of your choice creating >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>titling from >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>your mobile email's subject line, slapping on a nice outro and cross >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>posting >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>it to your blog with the body copy. >>>> >>>>Peace, >>>> >>>>-Mike >>>>mefeedia.com >>>>mmeiser.com/blog >>>> >>>> >>>>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Yahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
