I'm having trouble following and contributing to this discussion 
because the posts aren't showing up in any order I can determine.  
Seriously.  Weird.  

Anyway, Mike, please don't feel it necessary to respond to my earlier 
posts.  You've explained that the opt-out/opt-in that you're 
discussing is vis-a-vis blip and its dashboard and RSS feeds 
and "partners."  That's fine.  Blip can inform its users that 
certain "network partners" get our stuff on an opt-out basis and 
that's part of the TOS explicit or implicit when we use blip.  I 
think Steve was right that there's some cross-talk and I'm sorry if I 
contributed to it.  I'm very happy to deal with these other sites 
through the blip dashboard and choose my options from there.  I do 
want folks to realize that sites pursuing an opt-out strategy outside 
this kind of sandbox arrangement with blip or other services we use 
is inappropriate.

And, again, thanks for your advocacy.

-David

--- In [email protected], "Mike Hudack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> John,
> 
> I'm going to reply to David directly in just a moment.  I'd just 
like to
> point out that my ability to discuss the particular case of Magnify
> right now is fairly limited since negotiations with Magnify are 
ongoing
> and I don't want to jeopardize those conversations.  It's kind of 
like
> lawyers negotiating a settlement or heads of state trying to end a
> shooting war -- you don't want to make off-handed comments to the 
press
> which may filter back into the negotiating room and change opinions,
> offend people, or put people in difficult positions because of the
> public discussion of the issue which may put pressure on people and
> force their hands.
> 
> Yours,
> 
> Mike
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of johnleeke
> > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:26 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy and Magnify and 
> > aggregators in general
> > 
> > It is fascinating to read between the lines and learn 
> > business diplomacy from Mike.
> > 
> > I agree with David, when it comes to the legality and 
> > morality of the issue, "opt out" simply empowers the illegal 
> > and immoral actions of these secondary agrigators and 
> > distributors of our content. They want and take our content 
> > because it has a higher value that what they have to pay for 
> > it. The fact that their business model is based on paying 
> > absolutely nothing for the content is the problem. 
> > 
> > "We cannot afford it" sounds pretty lame when they have 
> > million dollar budgets. But even on lesser budgets what 
> > happened to the "micro payment" idea? Wern't computers 
> > supposed to make "micro payments"
> > practical? Why don't they set a policy of always paying, then 
> > pay what they can negotiate with the content maker? Blip has 
> > done it so we know it is possible. If they cannot arrive at 
> > an agreement with the content makers, then they don't take 
> > the content.
> > 
> > This seems pretty simple, and most of us learned it from our 
> > Mommies by the time we were ten:
> > 
> > "If it doesn't belong to you, then don't take it."
> > 
> > Every particle of the conflict in this issue arises out of 
> > the fact that it appears they think they can ignore this 
> > basic tenant of our morality-based society.
> > 
> > I think the fact that they do, or do not, "show their faces" 
> > in this discussion tells us a lot about their character and 
intent.
> > 
> > Mike and all, thanks for the good works and thoughtful 
discussions.
> > 
> > John
> > www.HistoricHomeWorks.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
>


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