I think we're in 100% agreement.   

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 12:40 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy and Magnify and 
> aggregators in general
> 
> I'm having trouble following and contributing to this 
> discussion because the posts aren't showing up in any order I 
> can determine.  
> Seriously.  Weird.  
> 
> Anyway, Mike, please don't feel it necessary to respond to my 
> earlier posts.  You've explained that the opt-out/opt-in that 
> you're discussing is vis-a-vis blip and its dashboard and RSS 
> feeds and "partners."  That's fine.  Blip can inform its 
> users that certain "network partners" get our stuff on an 
> opt-out basis and that's part of the TOS explicit or implicit 
> when we use blip.  I think Steve was right that there's some 
> cross-talk and I'm sorry if I contributed to it.  I'm very 
> happy to deal with these other sites through the blip 
> dashboard and choose my options from there.  I do want folks 
> to realize that sites pursuing an opt-out strategy outside 
> this kind of sandbox arrangement with blip or other services 
> we use is inappropriate.
> 
> And, again, thanks for your advocacy.
> 
> -David
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Mike Hudack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > John,
> > 
> > I'm going to reply to David directly in just a moment.  I'd just
> like to
> > point out that my ability to discuss the particular case of Magnify 
> > right now is fairly limited since negotiations with Magnify are
> ongoing
> > and I don't want to jeopardize those conversations.  It's kind of
> like
> > lawyers negotiating a settlement or heads of state trying to end a 
> > shooting war -- you don't want to make off-handed comments to the
> press
> > which may filter back into the negotiating room and change 
> opinions, 
> > offend people, or put people in difficult positions because of the 
> > public discussion of the issue which may put pressure on people and 
> > force their hands.
> > 
> > Yours,
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected] 
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of johnleeke
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:26 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy and Magnify and 
> aggregators in 
> > > general
> > > 
> > > It is fascinating to read between the lines and learn business 
> > > diplomacy from Mike.
> > > 
> > > I agree with David, when it comes to the legality and morality of 
> > > the issue, "opt out" simply empowers the illegal and 
> immoral actions 
> > > of these secondary agrigators and distributors of our 
> content. They 
> > > want and take our content because it has a higher value that what 
> > > they have to pay for it. The fact that their business 
> model is based 
> > > on paying absolutely nothing for the content is the problem.
> > > 
> > > "We cannot afford it" sounds pretty lame when they have million 
> > > dollar budgets. But even on lesser budgets what happened to the 
> > > "micro payment" idea? Wern't computers supposed to make "micro 
> > > payments"
> > > practical? Why don't they set a policy of always paying, then pay 
> > > what they can negotiate with the content maker? Blip has 
> done it so 
> > > we know it is possible. If they cannot arrive at an 
> agreement with 
> > > the content makers, then they don't take the content.
> > > 
> > > This seems pretty simple, and most of us learned it from 
> our Mommies 
> > > by the time we were ten:
> > > 
> > > "If it doesn't belong to you, then don't take it."
> > > 
> > > Every particle of the conflict in this issue arises out 
> of the fact 
> > > that it appears they think they can ignore this basic 
> tenant of our 
> > > morality-based society.
> > > 
> > > I think the fact that they do, or do not, "show their faces" 
> > > in this discussion tells us a lot about their character and
> intent.
> > > 
> > > Mike and all, thanks for the good works and thoughtful
> discussions.
> > > 
> > > John
> > > www.HistoricHomeWorks.com
> > > 
> > > 
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