Here here, Tim. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:43 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: MyHeavy and Magnify and 
> aggregators in general
> 
> Apple has a link to our website on our podcast page at the 
> iTunes Store and we get lots of traffic from them.  If it 
> wasn't for Apple we wouldn't have the advertisers that we 
> have today.  We also have lots of comments on our Apple page 
> from people who love us and hate us. So there is a place for 
> user feedback.
> 
> Apple has been very good to the community. Keep in mind they 
> generate no direct revenue from podcasting, and there's no 
> way to quantify any indirect revenue on their site at this 
> time. I guess you could set up an affiliate account and make 
> some money sending people to iTunes but they send way more 
> people to us than we send to them.
> 
> I look forward to other big players following Apple's lead 
> and stepping up to the plate and creating a UI that is as 
> good as or better than Apple iTunes. Competition is a good thing.
> 
> 
> 
> Tim
> 
> Tim Street
> Creator/Executive Producer
> French Maid TV
> The Viral Video of "How To's" by French Maids 
> http://frenchmaidtv.com Subscribe for FREE on 
> <ahref="http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes"; target="_blank">iTunes</a>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 29, 2007, at 9:34 AM, sull wrote:
> 
> > I am often disgusted by Apple...
> > Is there even once example of Apple implementing user feedback?
> > Maybe, but from my view, they ignore outside feedback....  
> > especially when it
> > comes to this grass roots media revolution that has been 
> ongoing for 
> > 3-4 years.
> >
> > It can be argued that iTunes isnt the same and cant be similarly 
> > scrutinized for lacking proper attribution etc... Because 
> they exist 
> > to serve MSM first and foremost.
> > But give me one reason for this lack of attribution when they are 
> > displaying independent podcasts vodcasts in their directory? What 
> > Control Freaks they are!
> >
> > And btw, iTunes is still a terrible UI! They should take the UI of 
> > their hardware devices and apply it to their software apps.
> >
> > sull
> >
> > On 1/29/07, Mike Meiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > What still suprises me is that people get so mad at 
> myheavy and all 
> > > these others and yet the biggest offender of them all is 
> itunes with 
> > > their iTunes.
> > >
> > > They're using 10's of thousands of vloggers and 
> podcasters to build 
> > > traffic in their marketplace to sell mainstream media, and more
> > ipods
> > > and macs, and they don't even have the courtesy to give 
> you a reach 
> > > arou... I mean a damn permalink in the damn iTunes interface so
> > after
> > > I'm done watching your video or listening to your podcast I can
> > click
> > > back to your website and see your shownotes, comments, or any of
> > that
> > > crap.
> > >
> > > Is it because iTunes is a piece of software and not a 
> webservice, or 
> > > because of some steve jobs reality distortion field.
> > >
> > > Make no doubt about it even though apple isn't putting ads
> > directly on
> > > your media they certainly aren't doing you any favors. They're 
> > > alienating you from your users.
> > >
> > > So why do we DEMAND permalinks back to the original blog post in 
> > > Democracy, Fireant, Mefeedia, Network2, Myheavy and on and on an 
> > > one... but simply ignore apple?
> > >
> > > -Mike
> > > mmeiser.com/blog
> > > mefeedia.com
> > >
> > > On 1/28/07, Ron Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <k9disc%40mac.com>> wrote:
> > > > > The problem is that videobloggers are going down the same
> > hopelessly
> > > > > unrealistic and ultimately disastrous path as the record
> > labels and
> > > > > movie companies.
> > > >
> > > > That's quite a statement. One that I think is entirely wrong.
> > > >
> > > > I have no problem with you aggregating my video. Even 
> if your site 
> > > > has google ads. I'm quite aware that my stuff is totally free
> > as soon
> > > > as I post it on blip.
> > > >
> > > > I just expect that giant media conglomerates, or their 
> subsidiary 
> > > > investments (magnify, myheavy,nextnew networks, et al.) give me
> > some
> > > > kind of consideration as a content creator.
> > > >
> > > > If they are making millions, I want a share. If smaller
> > entities are
> > > > gaining notoriety, I want some of that; put a friggin' correct
> > link
> > > > on it for cryin' out loud.
> > > >
> > > > To say that expecting to get royalties off of large economic 
> > > > endeavors using our stuff is like a record company is standing 
> > > > reality on its head.
> > > >
> > > > It is the myheavys and magnifys that are acting like old school 
> > > > record companies; robbing artists of their hard work and
> > creativity;
> > > > screw the talent!
> > > >
> > > > Ron
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Jan 27, 2007, at 10:41 PM, Lucas Gonze wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 1/27/07, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<david%
> > 40captainhumphreys.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > Even accepting reality for what it is, however, 
> there are many 
> > > > > > good reasons to continue to push for our rights as
> > creators to
> > > > > > be sacrosanct.
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem is that videobloggers are going down the same
> > hopelessly
> > > > > unrealistic and ultimately disastrous path as the record
> > labels and
> > > > > movie companies. What's driving you is the same misplaced
> > sense of
> > > > > victimization and and righteous anger.
> > > > >
> > > > > Creators don't have sacrosanct rights in the US (except with
> > regard to
> > > > > attribution). That's not just a little wrong, it's wrong in a
> > way
> > > > > which is important. If creators were to be granted sacrosanct
> > rights
> > > > > it would be a massive expansion of copyright at the expense
> > of the
> > > > > public.
> > > > >
> > > > > And not just at the expense of the public, but also at the
> > expense of
> > > > > creators. The 500,000 YouTubers who you want to prevent from
> > mashing
> > > > > up your video have just as much right to make art as 
> you do. If 
> > > > > what's at stake is the loss of 500,000 artworks, why does
> > your work
> > > > > trump theirs?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Sull
> > http://vlogdir.com (a project)
> > http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog)
> > http://interdigitate.com (otherly)
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 

Reply via email to