Yeah thats a huge part of the reason why many people will want to use non-cc material.
Music, TV shows, films and books that are well known become a huge part of popular culture, and so become part fo the language and framework in which people communicate with and relate to eachother. Depending on how much you love music, many songs may become the soudtrack to your lives, forever linked with memories of people and places in time. So sometimes people want to reuse popular copyrighted works because they are a part of the language. But unlike standing round the water cooler at work talking about characters in a soap opera or reality program that was on TV last night, communicating using the language of popular music, tv & films can carry all these problems with property laws. This particular part of the equation will only change if people start making media which has less-restrictive rights than copyright, part of their everyday lives. I would guess this has only happened to a very limited extent so far, and it still interests me to see whether success for musicians, video creators etc on the internet, will more often than not lead them to careers in the more traditional media where there is currently money and more restricted rights for listeners/viewers. I remain hopeful that there will be many interesting experiments on this front, and despite the obvious urges to protect revenue streams and not move with the times, there will occasionally be some enlightened thinking from important players in the fields that have the capacity to change this situation. For example does anybody know if any of the deals Youtube did, enable people to post personal videoblogs to youtube which have copyrighted music from certain labels in the background or incidental in some way, or being danced to in a silly way? Anyway Im not trying to boil the whole issue down to the above, Ive said more than my fair share on the topic in the past so this is just one very specific way Im looking at it. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In [email protected], "Heath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It depends sometimes at least for me, I use CC music but sometimes > you just wanna use X song from Y artist because well, I like it and > it fits the mood I am trying to convey....because it's known > etc....but I am trying hard to get away from commerical music because > I believe in what CC stands for......I'm trying.... ;) > > Heath > http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com > > --- In [email protected], "David" <castingtalent@> > wrote: > > > > Jose Gonzales might care that you're using his music in your video > no > > matter how few people watch your stuff. But he might not. You can > > get in touch with him and ask him. But that's probably too much > > work. Since there's so much music out there you can use under CC > > license from artists who you can help by using it, who want you to > > use it, why not just go to music.podshow.com and use that instead? > > You're probably right that the harm you do Jose is nominal. But > why > > do it? Convenience, expediency? It's no more difficult to use > music > > available under CC license. It's just as few clicks away as the > > copyrighted stuff. And you're helping another artist who is asking > > you to use it. I really hope people will start to see this. > > Respecting copyright does not diminish the sharing, remix, resuse, > > revlogging community. It's an opt-in community that can exist > while > > simultaneously respecting copyright, whereas if we refuse to > respect > > copyright that limits our choices. We can publish our works under > > various licenses that permit others to use them. Or not. But > that's > > personal choice and it only makes sense to respect it. There's no > > need to trample on the rights of someone who, for whatever reason > > wants to protect their material. There's a growing database of > > content that's available for reuse. Why don't we use that? > > > > --- In [email protected], Rupert <rupert@> wrote: > > > > > > RE: what Jay wrote about breaking the habit of using commercial > > > music... This discussion of using commercial music has changed a > > lot > > > from 2 years ago on this group, when from what I remember it > > mostly > > > seemed to revolve around whether or not you'd get busted for > using > > it. > > > > > > I don't worry about that - my films only get 100-200 views, I > > don't > > > have adverts, and I'd be happy to take any of them down if asked. > > > > > > What interests me now is whether people in this group would take > a > > > dim moral view of someone like me using (yawn)Jose Gonzales on a > > film > > > of my daughter in the park (just because that's what I was > > listening > > > to that day, it fitted well, and I was pushed for time). > > > > > > Has the huge increase in support for CC made more people think > > that > > > this kind of thing is not just lazy, but Bad? Or does that only > > > count for larger, commercial vlogs? Since i've never had a > > negative > > > reaction or comment, I've assumed no one cares. If you do, I'll > > make > > > time to source elsewhere. > > > > > > Rupert > > > > > > http://www.fatgirlinohio.org > > > http://feeds.feedburner.com/fatgirlinohio > > > --- In [email protected], "Jay dedman" <jay.dedman@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > i have had to break a bad habit of using commercial music in my > > > videos. > > > > its tough because ive always found it hard to not use the > music i > > > hear. > > > > > > > > Ryanne (ryanedit.com) has been making her own music in > > Soundtrack in > > > FCP studio. > > > > its pretty amazing what she can make using their loops. > > > > > > > > > Personally, I use ccMixter material only, I can not > > > > > make my own music at the moment. I have used really > > > > > small segments of popular mix, and have referenced > > > > > them at the end of a film. Not sure if this is > > > > > breaking the law. > > > > > > > > CCmixter a good place. wish there was more stuff to choose > from. > > > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Here I am.... > > > > http://jaydedman.com > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > >
