I watch/listen to most of my vlogs and podcasts on my Creative Zen 
M.....it converts almost all formats, although it does seem to have a 
problem with Paul's here lately.  Anyway yes there are "other" 
devices that people use to watch video.....I for one really like the 
Zen, it plays a number of video formats without having to be 
converted. (mp1-mp2, avi, wmw, mov)  Which is pretty cool....

Heath
http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com 

--- In [email protected], "Steve Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Interoperability is also not about downplaying the significance of
> incompatibility with popular devices that have not chosen to
> participate in your certification program.
> 
> Despite all my waffle in the previous posts, Im reasonably confident
> that right now I could create an .mp4 with mpeg4 or h264 video, that
> will play on itunes, ipod, PSP, fireant, democracy, VLC, and in 
dozens
> of other software players on windows, os x and linux. Its nowhere 
near
> as easy as it should be, and in straightforward world where every
> device was likely to embrace divx, I would have absolutely nothing
> negative to say whatsoever about the codecs and tools that divx
> offers, your strategy, or anything youve said.
> 
> But its not that clearcut, and so as in past years, you find me
> ranting about mpeg4 and seeking greater clarity. You say Sony, I 
say '
> so does that include the sony PSP and PS3?'
> 
> It all comes down to what will happen with devices in the future, 
and
>  Im finding it to be really hard to tell what sorts of devices are
> actually out there and being used by people, is there even a huge
> demand from people for compatible files for their device? People
> focussed on the iPod because of its profile, and all the hype and
> media attention and consumer attention that goes with it. But we 
know
> there are loads of other devices out there that can play video, some
> of them support divx, some support a range of mpeg4, some both. We
> hear about some of these devices here occasionally, but Ive no idea
> how many people are out there wanting to watch videoblogs on any of
> these. We could assume that comments from viewers would alert 
everyone
> to these demands, I dunno, what sort of a tiny fraction of humans 
are
> actually consuming video on mobile devices right now? Or on DivX
> certified DVD players? When video on mobile phones comes fully of 
age,
> what format will it be using, will the masses actually use their
> phones for this? As you can see this means that Im still unclear as 
to
> how big a problem this stuff will actually turn out to be in the
> future, maybe I shouldnt judge DivX & others so much based on device
> interoperability at all. After all the browser is where most of the
> action has been in the last 2 years, and I congratulate you again on
> sucessfully coming up with a divx browser solution that seems to 
work
> well and definately removed the most dramatic reason why divx wasnt 
a
> great fit for vloggers.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Steve Elbows
> 
> --- In [email protected], "JV" <jvinson@> wrote:
> 
> > As for mp3 audio, this sounds more complicated than it is. Every 
video
> > has some sort of audio, we just choose to use a very popular 
codec. If
> > you want, you can make a DivX file with ac3 audio. If the user 
doesn't
> > have ac3, they won't get sound. So, all files have a video stream 
and
> > an audio stream in the same file. All DivX encoding applications
> > include a licensed mp3 encoder.
> 
> > interoperability. ('It plays in QT, iTunes and ipod' isn't exactly
> > interoperability. It plays on VLC, Sony, Toshiba, Democracy 
sounds a
> > little more interoperable to me).
> >
>


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