Thanks, John, I wasn't aware of a couple of those links. The Nelly-Moser encoder is certainly optimized for the two-way requirements of Flash Player, but it's so proprietary I suspect even Adobe is regretting licensing it. It has locked out some really creative development in the area of getting audio and video in and out of the Flash environment into more portable and reuseable file formats, such as avi or wav. Don't get me wrong, I like what the encoder lets me do, but I am beyond frustrated with what it WON'T let me do as a developer. There is simply no legal way of getting something encoded using Nelly-Moser transcoded into another format without spending thousands of dollars. Unless you know of something I don't know...
Best, Carter Harkins http://crowdabout.us --- In [email protected], John Dowdell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > caroosky wrote: > > Any chance the next version of flash player will start supporting > > other formats besides mp3 and .flv? Maybe even do away with the pesky > > nellymoser codec for FMS recorded audio? (Please please please???) > > Sorry, I haven't seen any other announcements from Adobe's Flash Player > team. (That press release came from Adobe's Mobile group, and they cook > up the smaller Flash Lite engine for handhelds.) > > Here are some of the staffers on the Player team, if you care to put > them on a watchlist for any news: > http://weblogs.macromedia.com/emmy/ > http://www.kaourantin.net/ > http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/ > > Adding new codecs to the Player download has been hard, because every > additional kilobyte reduces the clientside adoption. (Essentially we're > trying to upgrade the world's consumer machines, so it's a > carrot-and-stick approach of new functionality with minimal > download/installation hassle.) I know that there's pressure this release > for many improvements in audio/video, but me, I don't know how the team > will balance all those desires yet. > > The Nelly-Moser audio encoder embedded within each download of Adobe > Flash Player is invaluable for two-way communications -- it lets the > audience speak as well as hear. > > For info on factors affecting codec choice, Tinic Uro's Aug05 essay is > still the definitive resource: > http://www.kaourantin.net/2005/08/quest-for-new-video-codec-in-flash-8.html > > > > Also, the whole "chipmunk effect" with mp3s encoded at unsupported > > bitrates is frustrating to us and tens of thousands of other > > podcasters who would more readily adopt flash player widgets...can you > > tell the powers that be to support more bitrates? > > I'm not sure how to describe this accurately enough to the product team > to make sure they address the correct "chipmunks" scenario, but you can > submit the change-request to the team yourself: > http://www.macromedia.com/go/wish > (It's an old address, but redirects correctly... choose "Flash > Player" in the dropdown list.) > > > jd > > > > > > -- > John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA > Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd > Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna > Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ > Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. >
