Wow... Pardon me on this everyone else, it's a first, but... Pat, shut the fuck up.
You deleted Sull's article out of spite you ass hole. You went through my past contributions and in about seven moves tried to delete 3 articles and a bunch of other edits. It's all documented on my talk page. That you felt the need to try and defend your actions, worse attack sull here and pretend this was some sort of protection of the principals of wikipedia is discusting. You viewed the article for what all of five minutes? The only reason your attempt to delete the article went uncontested is because we were well aware of what you were up to. Frankly I'm amazed you have the balls to peddle this crap here. You attempted to delete 2 other articles as well, the work of dozens if not hundreds of other people. That you have so little respect for others time and energy is apparent by your abuse of the delete button, but to do so out of spite shows a new low in your character. I'm not even going to respond to the suggestion that I have only contributed one sourced thing because this isn't about me. This is about you. You've deleted every single addition to that article multiple time... yes you've delete EVERY SINGLE CONTRIBUTION... multiple times. That's bloody f*cking amazing. Do you not realize how amazingly f'd up that is? That's thousands of people's contributions... are we to believe NOONE else in the world is capable of editing the wikipedia article but you? Was it not you that submitted the videoblogging article to be deleted last time? Did you not go through my contirbutions and attempt to have three articles I'd contributed deleted? Have you not deleted every contribution to the wikipedia article over the last few years multiple times? Other than some recent edits how many actual original contributions have you made to the wikipedia article over the last two years? I assume you have some sort of education so I cannot presume you're delete mongering is do to ignorance and I can't assume it's do to misguided good intentions. I can only assume it's you're attempt to troll the vlog article in some attempt to spite those in the vlogging community. This combined with the actions you've shown toward me as documented in the hostory of my talk page and the videoblogging article itself on wikipedia proves you at the least a liar, a spiteful / vengeful person, and of questionable character. Spare your words, because there's no defending that. Your actions speak louder than your words. As for this editor he's still advising me you idiot... he knew it would do no good to take sides on some editing issue, since from looking at your history he knew editing was not in fact the issue. The issue is unforetuneatly you and your actions. No amount of debate or good intentions and politeness will fix that. He has refered me to another administrator who had more experience with these issue, that issue being how to deal with someone who is a delete troll and a retributive editor. It's as simple as that. Sorry everyone else, i only spoke here because I couldn't stand the hypocracy, the lying, and the attacking of others whom I respect and their hard work. If you would like to see what was in fact a superb article wether noteworthy or not check out http://crowdfunding.pbwiki.com/ I've helped a little with references, but that's pretty much all sull, and I think it's pretty freaking brilliant. Perhaps at some point we can resubmit it to wikipedia, but it's deletion does not reflect the true state of things, nor does it need wikipedia. I'm seriously thinking of doing the same thing with the videoblogging article starting a pbwiki for a videoblogging encyclopedia. There's more than enough incredibly good documentation on this thread alone as referenced in the emails... not to mention an tremendous amount of info that's been deleted from the wikipedia article over the years, but at least on another wiki there are protections from trolling. I'm still checking into a few details though. Peace, -Mike On 5/1/07, Patrick Delongchamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sull, > > It may seem discouraging to have your content deleted but I've had > conversations with you in the past on the importance of verifiability. Yes, > I nominated 'Crowdfunding' for deletion. However, other editors voted and > agreed that it should not be a wikipedia article. It didn't contain any > sources, the topic was non notable by Wikipedia standards and the article > consisted entirely of original research. (A violation of Wikipedia's core > content policies) > > See the discussion here: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Crowdfunding > > You also failed to mention that the 'Crowdfunding' article has been deleted > on 2 other occasions in which I had no involvement or knowledge of. > > Yes, Mmeiser and I have been in an edit war over the Video blog article's > content for many of the same reasons. For months I have tried to discuss > the encyclopedic reasons for removing original research, indiscriminate > links, and the need to cite content from the article. As responses, I > received long, ranting, personal attacks and he refused to address my > encyclopedic reasoning. > > What hasn't been mentioned yet is how Mmeiser recently sought the help of a > Wikipedia Administrator. The result was not surprising. > > a) The administrator did not reinstate the content. > > b) On the contrary, the administrator cited the important of verifiability > and suggested to Mmeiser that he try editing content on a separate page and > have me look it over and give him suggestions before he place it into the > article. (an extreme I still don't think is necessary as long as he uses > citations when making contributions) > > I tried to extend an olive branch and asked that we work together > constructively to reintroduce the content with sources. (what i had been > trying to do all along) He, once again, wrote a long rant, made personal > attacks, and announced he was through contributing to the Video blog > article. > > To date, Mmeiser has contributed a total of one verifiable piece of content > to the article. (which i have never deleted) > > It's sometimes difficult to read a long emotional argument like those of > Mmeiser without being moved to feel the same emotions. This is what I > assume happened when I was called pathetic, a loser, a troll, etc by group > members earlier. > > Unfortunately, for Mmeiser and some others in this group, personal attacks > don't carry much weight in civilized discussions regarding encyclopedic > content. > > Since the yahoo group discussion began, we've had three people contribute > encyclopedic content to the article: Ruperthowe, Bullemhead and myself. For > the amount of discussion we've had in this group, I'd like to see more > happening to the article. Let's keep improving it. > > I'm want to get some third party comments in a week or so after we've done > some work on it. > > Patrick > > > On 5/1/07, sull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > that user was also responsible for the deletion of my article > > 'Crowdfunding'. > > and yes, meiser has been battling for months. > > fucking wikipedia. i dont have the time nor patience for such games. > > > > On 4/29/07, Michael Verdi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<michael%40michaelverdi.com>> > > wrote: > > > > > > This user - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pdelongchamp - constantly > > > fucks with the entry (deleting everything useful in it). It's pathetic. > > I > > > can't believe Meiser still has the patience to try work on the article > > as > > > his changes usually get deleted within hours. > > > > > > - Verdi > > > > > > On 4/29/07, Jan McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<jannie.jan%40gmail.com>< > > jannie.jan%40gmail.com>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Has rather been decimated. > > > > > > > > Wow. > > > > > > > > Anybody? > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlog > > > > > > > > Jan > > > > > > > > -- > > > > The Faux Press - better than real > > > > http://fauxpress.blogspot.com > > > > http://twitter.com/fauxpress > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://michaelverdi.com > > > http://spinxpress.com > > > http://freevlog.org > > > Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! 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