comment below. On 4/30/07, Rupert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "I can't believe Meiser still has the patience to try work on the > article as his changes usually get deleted within hours. - Verdi" > > Well, doesn't look like he does have the patience any more, sadly. > On Meiser's Talk page on Friday, he said he's now going to give up, > exhausted by Patrick Delongchamp's repeated 'delete trolling.'
Just because I'm not editing the article doesn't mean I'm not right there with you. Instead of focusing on the article I'm focused on ensuring that the space is secure enough to allow collaboration without trolling. > So Meiser has spent a long time protecting the entry from this sad > little man on a power trip. Not just Meiser's own work, but the > hours and hours of work of all you others who have added to and > discussed the Wikipedia entry. The work is not gone for good... it's easily reserected, of course there's no sense on reserrecting it if it will just be deleted, I'm trying to ensure that now. I'm also thinking it would be good to resserect a lot of this info on a pbwiki page. A videoblogging encyclopedia wiki. Where we ourselves can protect it. > This is what community is for. It's all about consensus and > support. How can we organize to support Meiser, and persuade this > troll to leave it alone? Maybe we can turn the tables and exhaust > Delongchamp instead, show him that more people believe in the fuller > entry than in his destructive, narcissistic little stub. I'm game. > What do you reckon? Unforetunately it's far to easy to hit the delete button. We could all engage in revision war against him and reserect deletes for various reasons. That if not exhausting him would eventually through the absuridity attract the attention of someone with the ability to ban him. > This is a problem on Wikipedia, individuals who use deletion to exert > a kind of tyrannical power over entries. The rule that things must > be from a Neutral Point of View (NPOV) can be corrupted and abused to > mean that everything that is not sourced must be stripped away. Actually his favorite things to cite are "needs citation" and "original research"... but yes this is a very common type of trolling. Delete trolling. I believe enric posted a beautiful citation to the urban dictionary on "wikinazi" http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wikinazi > It's an incredible power, to delete everyone else's entries and just > leave your own. It's a terrible abuse, I think, and achieves the > opposite of what NPOV intended - one view instead of many. To > justify it, Patrick Delongchamp needs to be backed by a community > consensus, which he is not. Exactly... it's way to easy to simply hit delete. It's terribly distructive to the spirit of collaboration and to moving forward. > I didn't know this was going on. I wish I had - it's the kind of > thing that should be discussed here. The wikipedia entry always > *used* to be discussed here, however painfully. Usually when > someone was trying to exert too much individual influence. > > At the moment, it's one-on-one with Meiser and this idiot. Let's not > be like the townsfolk in High Noon, leaving him to tackle it alone. > Let's be like the slaves in Spartacus! More movie references, I think this is two for you. I think you're over your limit. I'm cutting you off. :) Personally the Magnificent Seven is one of my favorite westerns ever. :) -Mike > Rupert > > Rupert > http://twittervlog.blogspot.com/ > http://www.twitter.com/ruperthowe/ > http://feeds.feedburner.com/twittervlog/ > > > On 30 Apr 2007, at 09:10, Rupert wrote: > > That's Patrick Delongchamp of the old vlog > cookingkittycorner.blogspot.com which stopped last June when he and > his partner broke up. He used to post quite a lot on this Group, but > nothing since September, so I guess he's given up interest in > Vlogs... other than telling us what is a Vlog and what is not. > If you want to have a reasoned discussion with him about the rights > and wrongs of this, he published his email here as patnmax at gmail > > Rupert > > On 30 Apr 2007, at 03:03, Michael Verdi wrote: > > This user - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pdelongchamp - constantly > fucks with the entry (deleting everything useful in it). It's > pathetic. I > can't believe Meiser still has the patience to try work on the > article as > his changes usually get deleted within hours. > > - Verdi > > On 4/29/07, Jan McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Has rather been decimated. > > > > Wow. > > > > Anybody? > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlog > > > > Jan > > > > -- > > The Faux Press - better than real > > http://fauxpress.blogspot.com > > http://twitter.com/fauxpress > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > -- > http://michaelverdi.com > http://spinxpress.com > http://freevlog.org > Author of Secrets Of Videoblogging - http://tinyurl.com/me4vs > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
