Not true Kent. I responded immediately to Lan and what was said shall remain private. It is over and we fully respect CC and producers work.
________________________________ From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kent Nichols Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 11:51 AM To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com Subject: [videoblogging] Re: irina gone Not to fully rehash the Lan situation, but we all make mistakes. Mistakes are human, it's how we handle mistakes that determines our character. When the mistake was brought to your attention, and an invoice was presented, you ignored/didn't pay it. If you truly believed in CC, you would have acknowledged the mistake, paid Lan's reasonable invoice (and it was quite reasonable), and then made a donation to CC on top of that. Instead you paid Lan a fee he did not agree to and he bittersweetly donated it to CC, to which you hastily agreed to donate when you saw public opinion was against you. If a small company like PodTech, who is actually aware of CC, doesn't really respect or understand CC, then how are we as creators going to ever get larger companies to understand it? The same goes with this Trademark issue. You trademarked it because you see value there. Value for your company. Not for the industry, not for the community, but for you. Great for you. Yippee. But it leaves the community in a lurch. Create a non-profit, give the trademark to it, and let's move on. -Kent, askaninja.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com<mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>, John Furrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kent, > We are not shitting on the creative commons. We are proponents of it. A mistake was made plain and simple. > > Sorry about misspelling your name I know it's Kent not Ken. > > ________________________________ > From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com<mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com<mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Kent Nichols > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:39 AM > To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com<mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [videoblogging] Re: irina gone > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com<mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:videoblogging@yahoogroups.com<mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com>> , John Furrier <john@> wrote: > > > > Ken, > > Please learn my name. It's sloppy and disrespectful. Kent. Nichols. > Co-Creator of AskANinja.com. > > > Last year the Vloggies was a PodTech event designed to bring together > artists and video developers. You remember Ken because you were part of > the growing group trying to make a living while developing kick ass > content. We invested heavily in that and brought in sponsors who wanted > to be part of the ecosystem. Today new sponsors are coming in to the > industry and the existing advertisers continue to sponsor (fund) shows > and video development across all networks. I'm proud of all the energy > and industry momentum that was a result of PodTech's investment in the > Vloggies. > > Great, how many new advertisers have you and your company brought to the > table? Now take Scoble off the table. I agree all ad dollars flowing > in the industry is a good thing. But it's going to take years and years > and a lot of hard work by countless people to move advertising into > online video. > > But I fail to see the direct result of the your investment in the > Vloggies doing that. > > > Is the industry better off than it was a year ago?? A lot of > videobloggers are much better off this year than last year as the result > of everyones creative work. The sponsors *are* recognizing it with > dollars. This is the result of hard work by the industry not by one > company but everyone involved in pioneering videoblogging - from the > founding group to vloggercon to Vloggies to Pixelodeon. In between many > companies have been formed and new producers are joining and > participating on a global scale. I see this as a great thing. In fact > new organizations like the Association of Downloadable Media are forming > to promote new advertising models around video and audio. The industry > is growing and viable business models are developing. > > I sent a message to the ADM, and received no response. I spoke to a few > "members" and they said they were at a meeting a few months ago and the > were surprised that they had joined this group and the announcement > caught them off guard. > > Having a single meeting and throwing up a web site isn't making a > coalition. > > > That being said I'm very much looking at the Vloggies as an open > industry event. PodTech isn't trying to exploit this event or try a > 'land grab' as you say. I'm exploring and having conversations with > partners about the format of the Vloggies this year. Although we > trademarked the term we are happy to work with any group with ideas to > make it open like we did last year. > > Great. Form a non-profit with board members from various companies and > give the trademark to that non-profit. > > > We are in business to make money and do the right thing to grow with > the industry. As a company we do make good business decisions and make > some mistakes. Yeah a photo was accidentally used and some people > didn't get their Vloggies on time - our bad but not intentional. If > more great content can continue to come out from video pros (on PodTech > or other network and sites) and more advertisers continue to accelerate > their sponsorship and advertising efforts then I'm happy and the > mistakes don't seem that bad. At the end of the day we are all part of > a growing ecosystem and the goal of PodTech and the Vloggies is working > with our peers in this ecosystem. > > > > These mistakes "don't seem that bad" to you because you are the one that > made them. Shitting all over creative commons, and then claiming it > wasn't about the money is ludicrous. Undermining the sense of community > in this industry by trying to own the awards show is the height of > arrogance and lameness. > > John, I'm begging you to form a non-profit. Let the awards live there. > It will happen with or without you, and it may as well be with you and > your trademark. > > -- > Kent Nichols > http://askaninja.com <http://askaninja.com/> > http://hopeisemo.com <http://hopeisemo.com/> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
