Im not so sure the net is going to be much different from distribution methods of the past, when it comes to promotion. Most of the time, nobody in the promotion business has a clue how to promote strange, different, risque things that push the envelope. Its so much easier to promote stuff that has an easier to recognise form. Something like Human Dog could also be considered a show, but only they themselves seemed to know how to promote it.
Promotion on the net is the weakest link right now, as best I can tell, and most of the time the viral & sical forms of prootion have nothing like the reach of traditional promotion. But have even the relatively great internet companies like blip really gone that far at promotion? Putting stuff on your front page is just the beginning. Oh I see at the other end of the spectrum that the completely rubbish entity I used to spill a lot of venom at, network2,tv, appears to have disappeared up its own promotube. But because they seem to be addicted to positive spin, the message says 'we are upgrading your network2 experience'. Still maybe they are right, I consider nothing to be an upgrade compared to what that guide to internet tv used to be. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In [email protected], "David Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You are correct. I will email Blip and see if they would promote NaVloPoMo. I > dont know if > anyone has actually emailed Blip about this? Your advice is well taken. > > Personally I dont see W&S as a show. It's not...hmm..."glossy". It's not > produced. It's not > trying to mimic television. I guess it could be classified as a show but no > way would I ever > call it Internet TV. I look at the work that you guys are doing coming more > from the > Independent or alternative side of doing things. With all the so-called shows > being > created, W&S is a breath of fresh air. You arent trying to make a series. I > suppose it's all in > how one perceives the work that is created. Maybe my perception of what you > guys do is > wrong? I dont know? > > David > http://www.taoofdavid.com > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com > > --- In [email protected], "Adam Quirk, Wreck & Salvage" <quirk@> > wrote: > > > > Even though most of the shows on their front page could be labeled "internet > > tv", that doesn't make them any less independent than your personal vlog, or > > Rupert's, or Schlomo's, or mine. I have Bullemhead.com to show my friends > > (like you) things from my life, things that catch my eye or ear. I don't > > care if only a handful of people see it, as long as it's the right handful. > > Wreck & Salvage was born from a desire to share our work with a greater > > audience. We don't have any funding, corporate or otherwise. So how is our > > show less independent than a personal vlog? Not trying to start shit, just > > interested in your reasoning. > > > > Have you or anyone emailed the blip folks about promoting the NaVloPoMo? > > I'm sure they are open to suggestions, as that's pretty much been their M.O. > > from day one. You catch more flies with honey, etc. > > > > AQ > > > > On 11/6/07, David Howell <taoofdavid@> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for the compliments Brook :) You are no slouch in this. You are > > > creating wonderful videos yourself! It appears that the > > > NaVloPoMo'vians are all breaking out of those molds and experimenting > > > with new things. > > > > > > Here is something that I find troublesome... > > > > > > There are so many fantastic videos being created for navlopomo and the > > > majority of them are being hosted on Blip. I just went to the Blip > > > front page and I see not a mention of any NaVloPoMo videos on the > > > front page. Nothing. I see that Cooking with Jack Black is a hit > > > though. Wow. Really...just...wow. > > > > > > It saddens me that Blip has gone the way of promoting "Internet TV" as > > > their base and bypassed the independent videobloggers who, were really > > > the ones that got them the attention when they first started up. Oh > > > sure, occasionally Blip will feature a non internet television > > > creator. The ratio is very lopsided though. > > > > > > I'm sorry Blip. I really don't want to point fingers at you but...you > > > are the ones that host my videos. I chose you then because I believed > > > in what you were doing...back then. I'm troubled with what you've > > > become. Alas, I guess you have to follow the money or promote where > > > the money may be. > > > > > > So, when we, the "Independents" have been tossed to the side in favor > > > of "shows" and "internet tv", posts like yours Brook inspire me to > > > continue promoting the "people" who do this fantastic creative work > > > and push the boundaries. > > > > > > Yes, everyone, please check out the amazing things that people are > > > doing for NaVloPoMo. http://nablopomo.ning.com/group/videobloggers > > > > > > A video posted every day of this month. 30 videos from each person > > > involved. That's a massive amount of content. Personal content! Let's > > > see an Internet TV show try and do that. > > > > > > Subscribe to the people. Get to know the people. Befriend the people. > > > Support the people. > > > > > > I remember back when videoblogging was all about "the people". > > > > > > David > > > http://www.taoofdavid.com > > > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Brook Hinton" <bhinton@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Having just watched a David Howell navlopomo post that sent shivers > > > > down my spine, I have to come here and say: people are posting some of > > > > their best work EVER for this project. If you're not following it you > > > > really should. I'm only able to keep up with about 20% of the posts at > > > > most in real time but I'm looking forward to eventually catching up > > > > with all of them, because this is an AMAZING surge of creativity. > > > > > > > > Brook > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > > > Brook Hinton > > > > film/video/audio art > > > > www.brookhinton.com > > > > www.brookhinton.com/temporalab > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Adam Quirk > > Wreck & Salvage > > 551.208.4644 > > Brooklyn, NY > > http://wreckandsalvage.com > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
