--- In [email protected], "David Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for the compliments Brook :) You are no slouch in this. You are > creating wonderful videos yourself! It appears that the > NaVloPoMo'vians are all breaking out of those molds and experimenting > with new things. > > Here is something that I find troublesome... > > There are so many fantastic videos being created for navlopomo and the > majority of them are being hosted on Blip. I just went to the Blip > front page and I see not a mention of any NaVloPoMo videos on the > front page. Nothing. I see that Cooking with Jack Black is a hit > though. Wow. Really...just...wow.
[disclosure: Everybody knows I'm a fan of the blip people, work ethic and business sense] > It saddens me that Blip has gone the way of promoting "Internet TV" as > their base and bypassed the independent videobloggers who, were really > the ones that got them the attention when they first started up. Oh > sure, occasionally Blip will feature a non internet television > creator. The ratio is very lopsided though. That's not really what happened. As far as I recall, when I first started trolling http://blip.tv , they had two tabs. One of them was "Shows" and the other one was "Episodes" or something like that. If you clicked on the "Shows" tab, there wasn't JACK there! :D ... The top 6 shows never changed and either number 2 or number 3 was Josh Leo. Meanwhile, there were tons of episodes being loaded daily, so your 'eye' was attracted to the individual clips that were being presented. There was no initial blip "focus" on independent clips... It was that the shows didn't EXIST at all. :) Eventually, some of the shows gained some prominence, and the way I see it, blip INTELLIGENTLY went with the flow of their niche, which is online, serial shows. You had your Amanda Across America and Scriggity and Vlog Soup and Reinventing Television and Noodlescar and I think CommandN, etc. After they had a bunch of serial, episodic shows, they started with that player that would skip from show to show on the front page. After that, they progressed to how the page looks now. My point is that as far as I can see, there wasn't a change in blip's focus. It was that there was NOTHING to focus ON at the time, so it seemed that the site was all about people posting random clips. On top of that, blip.tv is a 'back end'. I complained AGES AGO that they had a one-way friends list system, where you couldn't tell if anyone else "friended" you, and they couldn't tell if you added them either. When I asked about that, the point was made to me that they weren't trying to be a destination site. So... Basically, what you were seeing originally was an 'uncovered' back-end site. All that stuff is still going on in the background, but that's what it always was, background processes. That doesn't make those random videos any less important than the serial shows, but it's not a niche. You can put random videos on YouTube, Revver, Veoh... ANYWHERE, including blip. What makes them stand out is their attention to and promotion of serial shows, NOT the fact that people can post random videos or even random *collections* of videos and get automatically featured on the front page. I see you've already responded to Adam's statements/questions about *requesting* some recognition. > I'm sorry Blip. I really don't want to point fingers at you but...you > are the ones that host my videos. I chose you then because I believed > in what you were doing...back then. I'm troubled with what you've > become. Alas, I guess you have to follow the money or promote where > the money may be. I don't think it's a money issue. I think it's a business plan issue. I would imagine that blip.tv is a frontrunner in making deals for independent video producers to get either advertising dollars or directly sponsored, and they're honing their skills DAILY. Not that I run around looking for stuff like this, but I hadn't seen anything like the sponsorships that they got for Ze Frank's ARCHIVE... not even NEW shows!, which I think was DeWars and Amanda's sponsorship from PalTalk. Believe me. If you end up in a situation where you want your videos monetized, SOMETHING about the work that blip's putting in right this very minute is going to come in handy for you, either because of blip directly or because someone down the line followed their business model(S). > So, when we, the "Independents" have been tossed to the side in favor > of "shows" and "internet tv", posts like yours Brook inspire me to > continue promoting the "people" who do this fantastic creative work > and push the boundaries. There's no "tossing to the side". Blip.tv is a back-end. I never read anywhere that blip was focused on random videos. I *DID* read that they were focused on serial, episodic shows. Also, Adam's point about who is and isn't "independent" applies. > Yes, everyone, please check out the amazing things that people are > doing for NaVloPoMo. http://nablopomo.ning.com/group/videobloggers > > A video posted every day of this month. 30 videos from each person > involved. That's a massive amount of content. Personal content! Let's > see an Internet TV show try and do that. > > Subscribe to the people. Get to know the people. Befriend the people. > Support the people. > > I remember back when videoblogging was all about "the people". > > David > http://www.taoofdavid.com > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com Yes. It's a great undertaking. :) BTW... Is there anywhere else besides blip.tv where you would have the slightest, most miniscule, REMOTE chance of sending an email and MAYBE being featured on the front page of that host? I don't think so. :D -- Bill Cammack http://CammackMediaGroup.com > --- In [email protected], "Brook Hinton" <bhinton@> wrote: > > > > Having just watched a David Howell navlopomo post that sent shivers > > down my spine, I have to come here and say: people are posting some of > > their best work EVER for this project. If you're not following it you > > really should. I'm only able to keep up with about 20% of the posts at > > most in real time but I'm looking forward to eventually catching up > > with all of them, because this is an AMAZING surge of creativity. > > > > Brook > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > Brook Hinton > > film/video/audio art > > www.brookhinton.com > > www.brookhinton.com/temporalab > > >
