--- In [email protected], Adrian Miles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> 
> So, are we arguing about a manifesto, the use of some or all of 
>the  
> constraints, or someone linking to work on the basis of its use of  
> some constraints? And if we are clear that the use of 'we' in the  
> manifesto means the authors and not the creators of the videos, 
>can  
> someone state simply what remains a concern? (I mean that 
>genuinely,  
> at some point we need to recognise that our work, if out there in 
>the  
> public, will be reappropriated in varying ways, this is how we 
>invent  
> and create, so I'm trying to understand what the boundary issue is  
> here.)

I know I may be dissmissed as being rediculous again, but....English 
is a funny langauge and how people percieve things is even funnier 
(not funny "ha ha")  Let me quote the ending of Andreas and 
Brittany's manifesto 

"As such, we propose and curate, as inspired by media evangelist Aske 
Dam and the remoscope collective, a collection of personal videos 
that adhere to the following principles (arguably the natural limits 
of the original Lumieres): 

No zoom 
No edit 
No effects 
60 seconds max. 
Fixed camera 
No audio 

Works that follow these principles—Lumiere videos of today—are not 
intended to exist in competition with other film movements but seek 
to complement perspective film and observer documentary. There is no 
reason to repeat bad history." 

In some definitions curate means "From the Latin curatus (compare 
Curator), a curate is a person who is invested with the care, or cure 
(cura), of souls of a parish. In this sense, it technically means a 
parish priest"

It can also mean "To manage and maintain a collection. A curator is 
the person in charge of a museum, art collection, zoo, etc."

So by definiton a curator is "someone in charge" or "invested with 
the care of"

Taken in context with what is being said before in the manifesto, why 
is it unreasonable to think that someone may read the manifesto and 
conclude that Andreas and Brittany are in charge of the videos or 
have been given the videos to be taken care of.  In both cases that 
can imply consent of the participants.  That is why the "we" along 
with no disclaimer was bothering me.  

Now Andreas has said that he will remove links (which before he only 
suggested deleting the video from YOUR site), but at least he is 
willing to remove links.

I will say that his complete dissmissal at people's concerns, is 
quite frankly counter productive.  Andreas is obviously gifted but 
his people skills could use a lot of work....

Heath
http://batmangeek.com



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> 
> Adrian Miles
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> bachelor communication honours coordinator
> vogmae.net.au
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