wow - my brain hurts! Seriously though, thanks... I'll check into this
stuff, and see what I can figure out. That's why I love this group - a bunch
of helpful cool people!

David King
davidleeking.com - blog
davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Rupert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Of course, I forgot that FCE limits the resolutions you can define in
> Sequence settings to just standard DV and HD options, doesn't it? No
> custom resolutions, no web-friendly options. Sigh. Another feature-
> rich application for web video from Apple.
>
> I'm not sure exactly what FCE offers you, but I'd recommend choosing
> a setting that doesn't distort or crop your clips. If you choose
> 720x480 DV NTSC sequence, it's the wrong Aspect Ratio, so your
> 1280x720 will scale down to 720x405: filling the frame horizontally,
> but leaving you 37 pixels of empty space at the bottom and the top of
> your 480 frame. When you then try to export to 640x360, this might
> end up letterboxed and squeezed again - in fact, this might be the
> problem you're having now.
>
> It may be that - because FCE doesn't support your Aspect Ratio or
> frame size - the best option would be to choose DV PAL Anamorphic.
> This IS the right Aspect Ratio - 1024x576, which is exactly 80% of
> your 1280x720 resolution on both axes. BUT the sequence has an
> anamorphic stretch on it - so it can cause problems with the export,
> exporting a squeezed image if you're not careful. Custom export
> settings or iPod export should see you through OK. Just make sure
> none of your clips are marked as Anamorphic, and that their Distort
> setting is 0.
>
> Rupert
> http://twittervlog.tv
>
>
> On 9-Jul-08, at 3:54 PM, Rupert wrote:
>
> If I were you, I'd export using the Export to iPod setting and see
> what you get. It's very good at understanding what is needed,
> letterboxing or not. Chances are, it'll do it right - but if not, if
> your video still comes out looking wrong, then it may well be that
> you've got the Distort settings screwed up in the Motion panel in
> Final Cut.
>
> Distort should be set to 0 - but if you've imported something into an
> Anamorphic sequence, or anything is different between your sequence
> settings and your clip resolution, then Final Cut might have
> distorted it to make it look OK, to squeeze it in. This will screw
> you up in the Export.
>
> Best thing to do if this is the case: create a New Sequence with
> exactly the same Aspect Ratio as your clips, then copy & paste your
> edited clips from old wrong sequence to new correct sequence, then
> change the Distort settings on all those clips to 0. Instead of
> having to do this manually on each clip, the quickest way to do this
> is to change the setting on one clip, then Edit>copy that clip, then
> click off it, highlight all the rest and go to Edit > Paste
> Attributes, selecting only 'Distort' - that will paste the Distort
> settings from one clip onto all the others.
>
> Rupert
> http://twittervlog.tv
>
> On 9-Jul-08, at 3:33 PM, David King wrote:
>
> I did another test (haven't published it anywhere). This time, I did
> everything I mentioned below, but did NOT check the letterbox box. After
> exporting, the mp4 video is stretched, and has the black letterbox
> lines top
> and bottom.
>
> Is 640x360 not a standard size or something?
>
> David King
> davidleeking.com - blog
> davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Brook Hinton <[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]<bhinton%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> > That would have given you a letterboxed image in a 640 x 480 frame -
> > but I just opened the clip in quicktime and it's 640 x 360, not 640 x
> > 480.
> >
> > Personally, I would export it as 640 x 360 - just as you did - but
> > don't turn letterboxing on. That should give you a widescreen box
> > filled with a widescreen image.
> >
> > Brook
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:51 AM, David King
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <davidleeking%40gmail.com><davidleeking%
> 40gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> > > ok... I used the Sanyo Xacti HD1A. The source video was
> 1280X720, 30 fps
> > mp4
> > > video. I edited in FCE, then chose export using quicktime
> compression,
> > and
> > > did this:
> > >
> > > - under format, chose mpeg-4 and clicked options
> > > - chose mp4 under file format
> > > - chose h.264 under video format
> > > - did the 640x480 image size (chose custom)
> > > - clicked the preserve aspect ratio using letterbox checkbox
> > >
> > > My ultimate goal is to get the video onto my blog and my iphone.
> > >
> > > Am I doing this right?
> > >
> > > David King
> > > davidleeking.com - blog
> > > davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Brook Hinton
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <bhinton%40gmail.com><bhinton%40gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> 640x360 IS 16:9. It doesn't need to be letterboxed. It will be a
> > >> widescreen frame. The additional pillarbox in this file is
> probably
> > >> there because fitting a 16:9 frame inside a LETTERBOX inside
> another
> > >> 16:9 frame makes it smaller on all sides.
> > >>
> > >> But to know EXACTLY what happened we need to know:
> > >>
> > >> Is the source sequence or file 16:9? or 4:3 with a letterboxed
> image?
> > >> Or something else? And what format?
> > >>
> > >> Letterboxing is only used if you are trying to fit a 16:9 image
> in a
> > >> 4:3 frame while preserving the full image (e.g., putting an
> anamorphic
> > >> DV source inside a standard 4:3 image).
> > >>
> > >> Brook
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________________
> > >> Brook Hinton
> > >> film/video/audio art
> > >> www.brookhinton.com
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> > >>
> > >>
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> >
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