Great discussion. I think the energy use of the net & computers will
be a bit easier to tackle via technological progress than real world
transport will be.

In an era that is as much about resources peaking as it is climate
change, we are going to have to get used to monitoring our consumption
of pretty much everything, except breathing (for now). 

The freedom to pay no attention to how much we consume is not a
sustainable freedom, I dread to think how much froth will be generated
over the next 20 years by humans coming to terms with these emerging
realities, but I think in the longrun its healthy. And the internet
should not be excluded from the new mindset. 

Net may well be placed under strain by energy cost or security of
supply issues, especially if its shouldering new traffic that replaces
physical traffic (ie more digital downloads and video conferencing).
It may need a redesign if energy supply reliability woes causes
outages. Peer2peer, mesh networks and suchlike may e part of the
future, hard to be sure. We could even end up in a situation where
some things arent 24/7, eg your media that you subscribe to is
downloaded overnight, offpeak, when there is not so much electricity
needed for other things. Im not saying thats likely, just that almost
anything could happen if circumstances dictate in future.

What is hard to take is just how unfairly these new energy realities
may be dealt with. Eg by price. If the cars days are numbered, a lot
of that will happen due to people being priced off the road. And
whilst most people have to pay for the net already, and there are
different speeds depending on what you can afford, its not nice to
think of a future where even more people may be denied 'the full
internet' for reasons of cost. On the otherhand if the net is deemed
as essential as banks to keep the world turning, it could get bailed
out and turned into a more government/social infrastructure thing,
that citizens have a right to regardless of their ability to pay.

Talking specifics, in some ways a faster connection, getting the
download completed quicker, could use less energy. High definition not
only places a greater load on servers, but also during playback and
encoding. Flash player uses quite a lot of cpu when playing video, its
not the most efficient way to watch. However if you are watching video
on a laptop rather than a large lcd or plasma tv, you are using less
energy. And there will obviously be improvements along the way, such
as encoding and decoding being handled more by low-energy dedicated
chips or on the gpu which can do certain things more efficiently than
the cpu.

But its still quite early on in the story of our changing relationship
with energy and consumption. If we were at the peak of the crisis I
would probably get no choice about how I curtailed my consumption, it
will be forced upon me. Its a luxury to debate it and to make personal
choices about being more sustainable, its still a choice, one which I
wont quite take to the extreme by going back to text, photography and
audio rather than video. It seems hard to think of video as a luxury
right now, but never say never I guess.

Cheers

Steve Elbows

--- In [email protected], "Jay dedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Rupert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This is the only point I was going to make. You're all doing a fine
> > job of debating the other politics. But make no mistake: your videos
> > are melting the ice caps. A McKinsey study this year estimated that
> > data centers will be bigger polluters than airlines by 2020.
> 
> like anything we do these days, people got to get smart:
>
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081110-servers-to-finally-gain-energy-star-rating-in-february-2009.html
> 
> But not just people....Businesses.
> 
> jay
> 
> -- 
> http://jaydedman.com
> 917 371 6790
>


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