It definitely something I'm looking at Ron. There were 700 mostly international paddlers competing at that event in the Cook Islands over 10 days and all of them are potential customers as they want to see themselves competing and relive the fun they had at the event. The organizers employed me to shoot video from a jet ski and land to play back at the presentations and pubs on a big projection screen each nite to attract the paddlers to the sponsors venue, the Trader Jacks Bar and Restaurant. The footage was raw straight from the camera so it just played clip after clip and was actually pretty good. Then from all that footage I have to compile a DVD. But putting it online and charging per download would be cheaper for everyone. Sure there is still the problem of people sharing downloads, but they do the same with DVD's anyway. But if it was say $2 per download, I doubt many people would bother copying and sharing it. It also gives the sponsors more exposure by having subtle ads within the video, which could also be another income stream. I'm already capturing video of events for Surf ski, outrigger paddling and stand up paddling and supplying footage or finished media to other web sites, but it's kind of specialized and I have participated in these events for over 20 years. If I had to video a dog show, I would not have a clue on what to do, so I don't see how a community effort would be advantageous. But I'm all ears. Cheers Rambo Cheers Rambo http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Watson Sent: Wednesday, 7 January 2009 7:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews > > most of my passions don't make any money (wrt video) but I'm ok with > that and they're not related to your project in any case
Neither do mine, but they are all related, if your passion is video. There are stories to be told about all kinds of things - dog sports, outrigger racing, geocaching, brewing beer, I've touched on a couple of things that some people here have interest in. What if I were in Fiji during a large outrigger event and decided to shoot it? If rambo were aware of it and selling pay to play short videos for say, $2, then I could have a 50/50 split with him. A dollar a video. Video gets 200 hits, I make a hundred bucks - do this with rambo, a dog sport site, a brewmeister, a winery, a gaming community, or some other well developed community interest that is doing pay to play, and you've made yourself a thousand dollars for 20 minutes of video on ten outings. There's no reason this could not be done with ad revenue either. I should be able to do well with ads placed on free video and our live radio (online) and audio podcasts. I don't think it's a bad deal, and it's residual. It keeps coming in if the community has staying power. Of course it's not there yet, nobody's doing pay to play, but we will be, and we'll be doing it faster and better if people like those on this list are involved. And let's be serious, it's not like there's anything coming down the pike from Coca Cola or GM for advertising on independent media. The future of independent media is to hook up with cottage media entities and independent mom & pop operations and fill their needs for content and advertising. I don't want to beat a dead horse, though, and I can see that there's little interest on the list in entertaining the concept of making money through profit sharing with community developers and small businesses. It's a bummer though. It could be the big thing that makes producing independent video profitable, or at least not a total money pit. It also could put different kinds of creative people in the same room and on the same page fostering who knows what kind of exciting possibilities. I appreciate your responses, Kath. Good luck in all you do. peace, Ron Watson http://k9disc. <http://k9disc.blip.tv> blip.tv http://k9disc. <http://k9disc.com> com http://discdogradio <http://discdogradio.com> .com http://pawsitivevyb <http://pawsitivevybe.com> e.com On Jan 7, 2009, at 12:29 AM, Kath O'Donnell wrote: > 2009/1/7 Ron Watson <[email protected] <mailto:k9disc%40mac.com> >: > > > > Well, have you found something that is your passion that is for > sale? > > > > most of my passions don't make any money (wrt video) but I'm ok with > that and they're not related to your project in any case > > maybe ask people on the dog lists - the true fans in your area as u > mentioned? or if they don't make videos - have some training workshops > and teach them first. Brook had some great advice. > > the idea would work. I know an ex-colleague did this in late > 90s-current with AFL football videos on a website & is making a great > living out of it - granted he was a tv sports cameraman and knew all > the teams & players and advertisers & could partner with the tv > broadcaster too + go on o/s tours etc and do exclusive interviews etc > for a subscription site that many people subscribe to. (I'm not a fan > myself so don't pay for his videos). at the time he just hooked up > with a web person to build the site. another of the station's weekly > shows (produced externally but aligned with the station) did a similar > site for weather, surfing & fishing reports (video/text) & special > reports (as he's a leader in this field in his region - he's a known > personality for past 30years or so on tv) in late 90s too & is still > going. > > best of luck with it. I'm sure you'll do well. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
