I don't care about people doing this for me, it's not about dog sports. It's not about me. My stuff was only an example.
This is about the concept of profit sharing with producers and supplementing income of video producers and giving much needed help to community developers. It's the idea that I'm pushing, I don't want to push anybody into doing anything for me, but I do think this idea has merit and am a bit confused about the lack of interest on the list here. I hate this kind of communication, email lists, it's so easy to get a mixed message. I do like the latter part of your post, Jay, and think you are on it. I don't think Rosenbaum's piece was very groundbreaking either, other than the fact that it was in print (large blog) and it reinforced what I've believed and have been in the process of doing for a couple years now. And it did so with a little bit of anecdotal evidence and experience. I'm not used to seeing my thoughts and ideas in media until several years after they develop. You are right about the passionate hobbyist supporting their community, but I think it goes further than that. I think we're all about to realize just how important community is. We've been having our eyes opened it here Michigan for a few years now and as the economy takes it's final spins around the toilet bowl we're all going to get a look at how worthless our lives as consumers feeding an economy have become and how damaging it was to our society. We're all going to want to belong to and we're all going to *need* to belong to something in the near future. I think that profit sharing for niche content is a viable method for keeping a cottage studio afloat and for getting great content for niche communities. Creating daylight between spectator quality video and decent production has to happen in order to get the concept of pay to play video working. Getting past the flash in the pan YT viral score / instant celebrity thing has to happen as well. Thanks for the thoughts Jay. Enlightening as always. peace, Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://discdogradio.com http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 7, 2009, at 10:00 AM, Jay dedman wrote: > > I don't want to beat a dead horse, though, and I can see that > there's > > little interest on the list in entertaining the concept of making > > money through profit sharing with community developers and small > > businesses. > > It's a bummer though. It could be the big thing that makes producing > > independent video profitable, or at least not a total money pit. It > > also could put different kinds of creative people in the same room > > and on the same page fostering who knows what kind of exciting > > possibilities. > > I think you just need to change your strategy. > Why approach this group who aren't passionate about dog training? > Just not something I want to spend my time doing for any amount of > money. > > BUT I'm sure you know a whole community of dog lovers who now have > access to cameras. > Harness them to gather video for you. > I'm sure they'd love some bucks, but passionate hobbyists often just > do it because they love it. > > I'm also certain that it'll be easier to get people to record video > and send it to you...then actually getting the to edit the videos as > well. > Editing videos is where the real time and skill is. > Then you would need to talk serious money because editing video is not > a light task. > > I personally don't think Michael Rosenbaum's article is very > groundbreaking. > Porn has done the "pay for download" thing for years. > We all could have been doing it as well. > Is this "THE YEAR" when people start paying for non-porn content? > Doubtful. > > Because it's so easy to get free content online...and folks usually > just route around "pay to view" barriers, a more likely scenario is > that people will give you money just because they want to support the > content. They WANT to support you vs they HAVE to pay you to watch. > It's the NPR model vs the Comcast model. > > A small, but committed, fan base will fund you because they know that > if they don't, you wont exist. > This means your creations must be really important to them so take > chances and make the things no one else is or can. > > Jay > > -- > http://ryanishungry.com > http://jaydedman.com > 917 371 6790 > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
