Yup you're right, crazy and passionate. That Fig rig is up to version No 11, I just enclosed the Cam fully in a water proof casing and it mounts with a quick connect tripod mount to the rig. I'll post pics later today of the complete version. The details of how i built the Fig Rig are on the HV20 forum http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?t=20113
Contact you off list further about your project Cheers Rambo http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com --- In [email protected], Ron Watson <k9d...@...> wrote: > > Steve, > Great post! > > I've been thinking about this a lot, and I agree with your assessment > that different groups will have different cost structures and will be > watered down to what the market will bear. > > In terms of Frisbee dogs, a highly complex activity with only a few > people qualified or capable of delivering instruction that is > worthwhile, I think we're all set in terms of pricing. > > I'm not selling fish, I selling a fishing manuals. > > Flyball on the other hand is a much more simple sport in terms of > behavior - run jump over some hurdles and get the ball on your box > turn, jump some more hurdles and do it quickly. > > Not much serious instruction opportunities there. > > A friend of mine produced an instructional DVD for flyball with the > world's best team, and the 20 minute piece retails for $30. > > It's good stuff, but can it be broken down into bite sized chunks? > Not sure. They'll hang out for the community interaction. > > Agility is another highly complex sport and instruction is very > expensive. It's a great fit. > > Dock diving? Not much serious training there. > > This is just to show that there are different possibilities with > different topics. > > The specific idea I mentioned to start this thread, the jamming > videos, could not retail for more than a buck or 2, but at a buck or > 2 with the right players, they'd sell like hotcakes - a couple > hundred should be easy, not bad for a 2-4 minute video with limited > editing. > > While this is kind of selling the fish, and not the manual, it is > also selling the manual as the disc dog world goes round by stealing > tricks. > > This could not happen with all dog sports, and could not happen with > all kinds of activities. > > The people we are bringing in for instructional video are not just > some people. We have, perhaps, the best discdog instruction in the > world (not like we have many competitors) - it's certainly world class. > > I'm pretty sure we can get the price I'm talking about for > instructional pieces, at least in agility and Frisbee. The other > stuff not so sure. I'm betting on some good crossover numbers > (agility trainers looking at frisbee after good healthy exposure) and > solid hardgoods sales from the various small business vendors that > service the community. > > Rambo, > I think you and I are in the same place on this. The passion that > paddlers have is very close to dog sport people's passion - we're > just friggin' crazy about it. > > I don't think many people realize how disconnected many of these > communities are from 'reality'. > > Who spends thousands of dollars to Fiji (and pays to ship a boat!) to > beat themselves up in the water for some Kukui nut lei or something. > It's crazy. > > Who has 30 leashes and collars for their dog? Or has 13 dogs, 8 of > which sleep in bed with us at a time like we do? > > We exist in our own little reality and there is no corporate media > organization that is going to go there. It's the long tail or nothing. > > I am doing my best to create a community that allows for the kind of > support that Jay mentioned in his earlier post. > > All I have to do is put them all in the same place Vendors, trainers > and participants, let them interact freely, and bring their preferred > commercial interests (vendors and instructors) to them on a daily > basis. I'm pretty sure it'll work. > > I'll be happy to talk about the project offlist and give you some > details. > > I think it could benefit your gig. > > BTW, your fig rig pics got me fired up to create a new one of my own. > > It's kind of nice. > > Thanks! > > peace, > Ron Watson > http://k9disc.blip.tv > http://k9disc.com > http://discdogradio.com > http://pawsitivevybe.com > > > > On Jan 7, 2009, at 6:21 PM, Rambos Locker wrote: > > > Yet people pay $50 - $70 for an event DVD ????? > > > > Cheers Rambo > > http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Watkins > > Sent: Thursday, 8 January 2009 9:13 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews > > > > My opinions, for the one thing Im not short of is opinions: > > > > Training videos that are useful to a niche are one of the more likely > > sorts of videos that some people will pay for. > > > > I did not like the example prices you gave at all. Depending on the > > subject matter, training dvds and suchlike sometimes command a high > > price tag, and different niche's will have their own ideas about how > > much their stuff is worth, but I dont know as the internet customer > > will bite at prices that may not compare well in terms of cost/minute > > compared to dvd. > > > > I think the subscription model is more of a winner, but again it > > depends on the niche in question. And it works best if there is a > > fairly prolific quantity of new material added on a regular basis. > > > > When I think of multiple people & shows collaborating, a subscription > > model also makes sense to me, if it adds enough value & quantity of > > material to make a viewer more likely to bite. > > > > Collaboration has a number of big hurdles to overcome, such as all the > > issues that can make human collaboration in general quite tricky > > (clash of ego's, who is in control, differences of opinion, viewing > > others in the same niche as competition, etc etc). Then there are the > > technical issues, and also an apparent lack of large numbers of people > > with both the passion for the niche and the video skills, and the > > time, to pull this sort of thing off. This stuff can be overcome but > > it goes part of the way to explaining why we havent seen more of this > > sort of thing thus far. > > > > Whether its because of economic woetime, or issues of future > > sustainability of our ways of life, local and community sounds like an > > important part of the future. The internet, and video, will surely > > figure into this in important ways, but I can hardly begin to guess > > how it may turn out or exactly what form it will take. Still there are > > some possible scenarios where it doesnt figure into things much at > > all, never happens, where other forces lead us down a very different > > path. > > > > So far I have not gotten a sense that videoblogging & other forms of > > video on the internet have opened up many lucrative opportuinities for > > many people. Those who make it through traditional mass media are > > still the vast majority, and in honesty I havent seen a video for > > years that made me think different or that there was about to be a big > > change. The long tail has made me a tad more hopeful about humanity > > but has massively failed to live up to the hype so far, in almost > > every respect. > > > > Cheers > > > > Steve Elbows > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
