MIke?

Why did you have to say that?

Now I want to go on vacation for a month. ;-)


Tim Street
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On Feb 8, 2009, at 3:57 PM, Mike Meiser wrote:

> To use your car analogy most people simply take it to the dealer for
> maintence.
> There is no dealer for self hosting. Dreamhost nor any other provide  
> that
> sort of support. That type of structure does not exist.
>
> Most people are not technically literate enough to manage the constant
> stream of upgrades. I myself while technically capable, cut a hard  
> edge on
> maintence issues. If I go on vacation for a month, I simply don't  
> want to
> worry about it. And a month of ignoring it is all it takes... now  
> multiply
> that by the rest of your life. Most people underestimate how much  
> the long
> term maintence costs are while underestimating their own capactity  
> to handle
> that constant maintence.
>
> These people should simply NOT be self hosting... unless they use
> blogger.com which requires no maintence.
>
> It's that simple.
>
> -Mike
>
> On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 6:41 PM, David Howell <[email protected]>  
> wrote:
>
> > I'm sorry but the Wordpress site owners that are having their sites
> > hacked are the same people that buy a car and expect to never have  
> to
> > change the oil in it.
> >
> > Running a self-hosted site means being able to manage one as well.  
> If
> > you don't want to manage it, then you use sites like Blogger.  
> Blogger
> > is great for that. No frills. No muss. No fuss. No extras.
> >
> > If you dont want to manage it yourself, you hire people like me that
> > will not only design and build it but manage it as well. If you want
> > to do it all yourself, please read the manual, secure it and keep it
> > up do date with patches. Your unsecured site causes problems for  
> everyone.
> >
> > If you dont change the oil in your car, dont cry when it's  
> eventually
> > sitting dead on the side of the road.
> >
> > David Howell
> > http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Mike Meiser
> > <groups-yahoo-...@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Sad to hear. :(
> > > I'm assuming he was running wordpress?
> > >
> > > I've seen way to many wordpress blogs hacked. The problem is just
> > maintence,
> > > you have to keep wordpress constantly up to date to patch security
> > holes. If
> > > you don't it will inevitably get hacked. Same goes for all server
> > side open
> > > source.
> > >
> > > Many times I've wanted to redo my blogger.com blog in wordpress,  
> indeed
> > > wordpress is simply better, but the truth is blogger.com is
> > virtually hack
> > > proof since there's absolutely no server side code running. It's  
> all
> > handled
> > > by blogger.com and written to the server via sftp. I've really  
> come to
> > > appreciate this rock solid security and ZERO maintenance, and to  
> be
> > honest
> > > it's the primary reason I simply recommend blogger over  
> wordpress to
> > anyone
> > > who wants to self host on their own domain. The exception being if
> > they're a
> > > developer and already running code on their server, in which case
> > they're
> > > probably aware enough of the maintenance issues to run wordpress.
> > >
> > > Lately I've been doing a lot of work in the bike industry and it
> > seems the
> > > entire industry from shop owners, to racers to bike makers runs  
> almost
> > > exclusively on a blogspot hosted ecosystem. It simply works.
> > >
> > > P.S. a good auto-backup system or version control system for your
> > blog is a
> > > MUST if you run wordpress. A lot of hosting providers include this
> > stock.
> > >
> > > -Mike
> > > mmeiser.com/blog
> > > flickr.com/photos/mmeiser2
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Steve Watkins <st...@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Looking back a page or 2 on his twitter history, I think the  
> site got
> > > > hacked.
> > > >
> > > > http://twitter.com/joshleo
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], David King <davidleeking@>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone know what happened to josh Leo's site (joshleo.com)?  
> It looks
> > > > > like it is gone ... & I really like his videos!
> > > > >
> > > > > Just curious
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > >
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