Gary, to be fair, I did bring UCLA up in my first email and suggested this
is all up in the air. And also to be fair, Pat would have to further
elaborate on the films being streamed and how they're being used. By her use
of the term "movies," I'm assuming full-length entertainment features, but I
may be absolutely wrong.

As for UCLA's case, that is their point of view and is not a legally proven
judgement. Hopefully, a judge will decide and legal precedent either way
will be established.

And my feelings when UCLA includes in this release, "foreign-language films
for linguistic and foreign-language courses" as permissible is something I
object to in several different ways.

1) It seems to be full-length films UCLA is talking about and they're not
educational films per se.
2) They're obviously circumventing encryption.
3) They're implying that only foreign language films have a role in
education and/or that they're not "real" entertainment for anybody outside
the classroom. I know this is an absolute contradiction with my two first
two objections, but I did find this objectionable in terms of how foreign
films are seen by the public.

And just to mention, this is primarily UCLA's IT department speaking. I do
know other departments there at UCLA that find this stance highly
objectionable but cannot comment publicly.

Milestone has not taken legal sides on this case because I think it needs to
be handled by further revisions in the Copyright laws and mediation will be
the best way for distributors and educators to solve this mess. I'm also on
the board of the Association of Moving Image Archivists and in that
position, I have to represent the 1000+ members (including studios,
archives, educators and librarians) that are on both sides of this fence. By
I do know that the transference of formats without pay is going to hurt the
business end of filmmaking, restoration and distribution and will adversely
affect us all in the future if basic *and fair* compensations aren't able to
be worked out. Already, the illegal bit torrent use by individuals has
sharply reduced the number of titles being released in the US.

Dennis

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:42 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ding ding ding ding
>
> "why this should not happen" is currently being hotly contested:  see the
> UCLA case:
>
> http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/campus-to-re-start-streaming-of-154601.aspx
>
> gary handman
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I hate to raise this issue again, but apparently the computer geeks on
> > campus are streaming movies for faculty in a password protected course
> > mgt system without bothering to get permission/ license.  Does anyone
> > have a concise summary of why this should not happen?
> >
> >
> >
> > Many thanks.
> >
> > Pat McGee
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
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