Hi all,

Let me clarify-the films streamed are documentaries produced for
educational use-not feature films.  The class, however, is not a
distance education class but a face-to-face 'regular' college course,
and we do have legally acquired hard copies of the titles on reserve for
viewing in the library.

Pat McGee

 

Coordinator of Media Services

Volpe Library and Media Center

Tennessee Technological University

Campus Box 5066

Cookeville, TN 38505

931-372-3544

 

 

 

From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dennis Doros
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 11:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Streaming within a password protected course
management system

 

Gary, to be fair, I did bring UCLA up in my first email and suggested
this is all up in the air. And also to be fair, Pat would have to
further elaborate on the films being streamed and how they're being
used. By her use of the term "movies," I'm assuming full-length
entertainment features, but I may be absolutely wrong.

 

As for UCLA's case, that is their point of view and is not a legally
proven judgement. Hopefully, a judge will decide and legal precedent
either way will be established.

 

And my feelings when UCLA includes in this release, "foreign-language
films for linguistic and foreign-language courses" as permissible is
something I object to in several different ways.

 

1) It seems to be full-length films UCLA is talking about and they're
not educational films per se.

2) They're obviously circumventing encryption.

3) They're implying that only foreign language films have a role in
education and/or that they're not "real" entertainment for anybody
outside the classroom. I know this is an absolute contradiction with my
two first two objections, but I did find this objectionable in terms of
how foreign films are seen by the public.

 

And just to mention, this is primarily UCLA's IT department speaking. I
do know other departments there at UCLA that find this stance highly
objectionable but cannot comment publicly. 

 

Milestone has not taken legal sides on this case because I think it
needs to be handled by further revisions in the Copyright laws and
mediation will be the best way for distributors and educators to solve
this mess. I'm also on the board of the Association of Moving Image
Archivists and in that position, I have to represent the 1000+ members
(including studios, archives, educators and librarians) that are on both
sides of this fence. By I do know that the transference of formats
without pay is going to hurt the business end of filmmaking, restoration
and distribution and will adversely affect us all in the future if basic
and fair compensations aren't able to be worked out. Already, the
illegal bit torrent use by individuals has sharply reduced the number of
titles being released in the US. 

 

Dennis

 

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:42 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

Ding ding ding ding

"why this should not happen" is currently being hotly contested:  see
the
UCLA case:
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/campus-to-re-start-streaming-of-154
601.aspx

gary handman


> Hi all,
>
> I hate to raise this issue again, but apparently the computer geeks on
> campus are streaming movies for faculty in a password protected course
> mgt system without bothering to get permission/ license.  Does anyone
> have a concise summary of why this should not happen?
>
>
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Pat McGee
>
>
>
> Coordinator of Media Services
>
> Volpe Library and Media Center
>
> Tennessee Technological University
>
> Campus Box 5066
>
> Cookeville, TN 38505
>
> 931-372-3544
>
>
>

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UC Berkeley

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