With apologies to Dennis D (and except for Eyes on the Prize), name a single non-theatrical title that has gone out of distribution for over a year and come back. (I'll admit that features are trickier...and those are not really what's centrally being discussed here)
gary > are you kidding? This is definitely NOT bullshit it is lively hood of > filmmakers and distributors you have supported for decades. Titles that go > out of print never come back? Until very recently titles constantly came > went in and out of print. With the market having shrunk so much recently > it > is a lot harder to spend the money to make a DVD to distribute. What in > the > world are you talking about that you have hardly seen any films come back > in > distribution in 30 years. I think think of everything from Hollywood > features to indie docs that often go in and out. Ask Dennis he > specializes > in films in getting films back in distribution. I am dealing with this on > a > daily basis Gary, and I only work free lance. You know that educational > companies are being killed by schools making illegal copies of old VHS > titles.I can think of everything from the American Film Theater (which at > one time were the rarest videos out there) to Chaplin films to The Word > is > Out that came back. I was personally responsible for Yellen getting back > in > distribution after many years. Frankly if we were actually talking about > really rare and obscure films for which there was little livelihood of > them > ever becoming available in DVD , no on would care, but instead on a daily > basis films whose owners are clearly known, who have worked to make films > available as best they can are seeing their works illegally digitized and > now even streamed. You think this has nothing to do with the crisis in the > educational market? You can't imagine how depressing it is for a filmmaker > and distributors to find that an institution they worked with for years > illegally copied and increasingly streamed their work. I spoke to a > filmmaker today who feels personally betrayed and right now she is > scrambling to be able to live and keep making films. > > You did try to use the "rare" and "I am only trying to save and preserve > these films argument" so I threw it back at you. However your claim that > EVERY VHS is > "at risk" is frankly galling and not your previous position. I imagine you > are getting frustrated and pushed by impatient faculty but either a VHS is > damaged or it isn't and I have ones that are 30 years old in the old > padded > boxes that are fine. I don't know what has changed your mind from your > previous position that a video actually had to be damaged and warning > people > they could not just make DVDs of videos in the collection. > > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:29 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> This is bullsh and you know it, Jessica. >> >> I've been in this biz close to 30 years and have virtually never seen a >> title which has gone out of distribution for any period of time come >> back >> in another format. It simply doesn't happen. >> >> I never said that you can make a copy of anything on vhs. What I said >> is >> that for items determined (after suitable due diligence) to be >> unavailable >> for purchase in any format at fair market price make a 108 copy, if the >> copying otherwise adheres to the conditions of 108. I said >> (furthermore) >> that in such cases, in almost every instance, vhs tapes can be shown to >> be >> degraded and at some physical risk. >> >> Rare has nothing to do with 108 (what's that mean, anyway?). 108 also >> has >> nothing to do with "convenience." If it's no longer get-able, and if I >> can demonstrate physical deterioration and risk, I'll copy. >> >> >> >> >> > Because if ever library who bought a VHS just makes their own DVD >> then >> > the >> > actual owner has no incentive to make one because the market has been >> > fatally compromised. If a distributor is going to invest tens of >> thousands >> > of dollars and 300 major libraries already made their own DVD copies >> > exactly >> > how will they be able to afford to do that?. Please don't tell me all >> > those >> > libraries will instantly buy the legit DVD, because that is simply not >> > true. >> > You might Gary , but you know damn well others will not. >> > >> > No offense but you keep changing positions. Yesterday it was all VHS >> > copies are basically at risk so you can make DVD copies of anything >> you >> > have on VHS. Today it was the only way to "preserve" rare items and >> now >> it >> > is anything I need to keep a title available and trust me to buy >> another >> > copy when you invest those thousands in it. Again the vast majority of >> > these >> > titles are NOT rare, they just have not been released on DVD. At least >> > save >> > the pretense that this is about preservation or rarity, it is about A. >> > getting a title in a convenient format. B. Not having to limit access >> to >> > "gasp horrors" the library when >> > you do make a copy. The title remains available for viewing and >> research, >> > but the institution does not get a free upgrade to a circulating copy >> . >> As >> > I >> > keep asking >> > why is this so hard to explain. I really doubt any library is >> digitizing >> > all >> > their books that are rare and out of print and circulating them so >> entire >> > classes can use one copy of a copy. Do you think that might hurt >> > publishers? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:03 PM, <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> >> Wait...I'm not getting something here: >> >> >> >> 1. A title is no longer available for purchase in any format >> >> 2. The library owns an earlier-purchased copy on tape >> >> 3. The tape is in physical risk of disintegration (or is in rough >> shape >> >> currently) >> >> 4. The library makes a 108 replacement copy. >> >> >> >> HOW will this be "the end of educational distributors?????" >> >> >> >> If I could buy a goddamn replacement, I would. I can't. So copy I >> will >> >> (and legally under current copyright allowances) >> >> >> >> Gary >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Except a ton of stuff is out of distribution and the rights holder >> >> can't >> >> > afford to upgrade. If you give libraries carte blanche to make DVDs >> of >> >> any >> >> > out of print video and that does seem to be what you are >> suggesting, >> >> it >> >> > will >> >> > be the end of educational distributors. >> >> > The title that started this seemed like a run of the mill out of >> print >> >> > title >> >> > not some super rare one of kind needs to be preserved. I am fine >> with >> >> a >> >> > project to identify and preserve genuinely rare and unique >> material, >> >> but >> >> > to >> >> > say anything that is not available on DVD entitles a library that >> owns >> >> a >> >> > VHS >> >> > to digitize it and stream or use it classes is entirely different. >> >> > Honestly >> >> > Gary I am not even sure what your position is. If a studio >> released >> >> a >> >> > title and sold 5,000 copies 15 years ago, it has the film in 35mm, >> it >> >> runs >> >> > on TV , but the studio has not released it on DVD is it OK for a >> >> library >> >> > to >> >> > take that inconvenient video and make a DVD? Suppose a company or >> >> > filmmaker >> >> > you have done business with for years says no they don't have the >> >> title >> >> > you >> >> > bought in VHS on DVD because it will cost them too much money, >> though >> >> > perhaps they might later, you get to digitize that VHS in the >> >> meantime? >> >> > THIS is what is happening all over. This is NOT a case of trying to >> >> "save" >> >> > rare films, it is libraries and more precisely professors not being >> >> able >> >> > to >> >> > access a film when and in what format they want. I seriously doubt >> >> > Marilyn's copy of MACHINE THAT CHANGED THE WORLD is one of kind and >> in >> >> > need >> >> > of preservation. It just has not been released in DVD and the prof >> >> does >> >> > not >> >> > want to use it in VHS so comes up with a bogus claim that a 1992 >> film >> >> is >> >> > PD. >> >> > >> >> > I know I am in one of my hostile moods today, but I do think a >> whole >> >> lot >> >> > of >> >> > institutions (driven by profs and IT people) are acting like Asian >> >> > bootleggers. Independent filmmakers and distributors in particular >> >> looked >> >> > to >> >> > libraries to support them and protect their rights not to copy >> their >> >> > material without permission. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:54 AM, <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Jessica... >> >> >> >> >> >> There's a HELL of a lot of difference between freely digitizing >> and >> >> >> delivering in-distribution content (under the banner of 107 or >> other >> >> >> rationales) and invoking 108 to save content that is >> >> out-of-distribution >> >> >> and at risk of going away for good. Come on, J. You KNOW these >> two >> >> >> things have NOTHING to do with each other whatsoever in terms of >> >> market >> >> >> impact. >> >> >> >> >> >> Gary >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > No what it effectively says is you don't get the right to make a >> >> free >> >> >> copy >> >> >> > or upgrade. It is pretty clear it was written for preservation >> and >> >> >> > research >> >> >> > not for circulation which would include classroom use. If you >> >> could >> >> >> just >> >> >> > digitize everything ( which to be honest is happening in many >> >> >> unscrupulous >> >> >> > institutions) there would be no reason or ability for rights >> >> holders >> >> >> to >> >> >> > actually make decent digital copies. As Dennis has pointed out >> >> >> endlessly >> >> >> > it >> >> >> > costs a lot of money to make a good digital copy. I am a little >> >> >> grumpier >> >> >> > than usual this morning having been informed by a producer that >> a >> >> >> major >> >> >> > university did indeed digitize everything it owned and put it on >> a >> >> >> server >> >> >> > two years ago. Classes no longer bother with VHS or DVD and in >> this >> >> >> case >> >> >> > thousands of rights holders are screwed. The educational market >> in >> >> >> > particular is suffering not because the market has shrunk but >> >> because >> >> >> many >> >> >> > institutions are acting like Asian film pirates. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:20 AM, >> <[email protected]> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Let's put it this way, Jessica: I have about 32K tapes in my >> >> >> >> collection, >> >> >> >> and I can confidently say that I can show significant >> >> deterioration >> >> >> for >> >> >> >> the majority. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This feature of 108 is perhaps the most idiotic of them all: >> what >> >> it >> >> >> >> effectively says is that you have to wait until the medium is >> >> >> unplayable >> >> >> >> or badly worn to save it. Makes no sense whatsoever. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Gary >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > So you are now claiming a VHS is automatically deteriorating? >> >> This >> >> >> is >> >> >> >> > absurd.The VHS or whatever format is supposed to be in must >> be >> >> >> >> "damaged, >> >> >> >> > deteriorating, lost, or stolen, or if the existing format in >> >> which >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> > work >> >> >> >> > is stored has become obsolete, " in order to even be >> considered >> >> for >> >> >> a >> >> >> >> > digital transfer. There was no indication whatsoever that the >> >> VHS >> >> >> set >> >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> > case has any of these issues. I think we have discussed in >> the >> >> past >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> > you >> >> >> >> > don't get to just transfer all your VHS tapes to DVD if the >> >> title >> >> >> is >> >> >> >> not >> >> >> >> > available in DVD or have you changed your mind? This is not >> a >> >> free >> >> >> >> pass >> >> >> >> > to >> >> >> >> > upgrade to easier format because a professor wants it. >> >> >> >> > I have 30 year old VHS copies that play better than DVDs. I >> am >> >> >> >> honestly >> >> >> >> > shocked you would take such a blase attitude to rights. You >> are >> >> >> right >> >> >> >> it >> >> >> >> > is >> >> >> >> > a slippery slope that you seem to have turned into Niagra >> Falls >> >> by >> >> >> >> > asserting >> >> >> >> > any VHS can be digitized and circulated throughout a campus. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > The reason I focused on if this item was PD was because that >> was >> >> >> >> actually >> >> >> >> > the question. To be totally honest any professor claiming it >> is >> >> OK >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> > digitize a VHS released in the 90s because it is PD is either >> a >> >> >> total >> >> >> >> > idiot >> >> >> >> > ( which I doubt) or just trying to use any excuse to justify >> >> >> getting a >> >> >> >> DVD >> >> >> >> > because again the VHS is not >> >> >> >> > damaged just inconvenient. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Might one ask if any of the lawyers involved in the Mellon >> >> project >> >> >> >> > represent >> >> >> >> > rights holders? Since virtually no university library is in >> fact >> >> >> open >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> > "public" which is requirement of 108 you might want to be >> >> careful >> >> >> how >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> > define the phrase. It is really logical to think the >> restriction >> >> on >> >> >> >> > digital >> >> >> >> > copy made from damaged VHS was intended for Joe Smith who has >> >> never >> >> >> >> ever >> >> >> >> > been allowed to take anything out from a university library >> in >> >> the >> >> >> >> first >> >> >> >> > place? I think we know from the ongoing UCLA case (more on >> that >> >> >> soon) >> >> >> >> > getting opinions from only one side is not a good idea. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > I confess I am a more than a tad skeptical of the Mellon >> >> project. I >> >> >> am >> >> >> >> > pretty sure that a this is the same project for which one the >> >> major >> >> >> >> NYU >> >> >> >> > representatives >> >> >> >> > told an ALA meeting that one should NOT try to contact the >> >> rights >> >> >> >> holder >> >> >> >> > when trying to determine the status of out of print work >> because >> >> >> they >> >> >> >> > would >> >> >> >> > only cause trouble and want money. I know Dennis has >> repeatedly >> >> >> urged >> >> >> >> > rights holders and the academic community to work together, >> but >> >> >> >> despite >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> > claims that evil >> >> >> >> > big studios are eating up the world I don't see much effort >> by >> >> the >> >> >> >> > academic >> >> >> >> > community to include rights holders, especially educational >> >> rights >> >> >> >> holders >> >> >> >> > in these discussions. You can't one hand say how much >> everyone >> >> >> wants >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> > support independent filmmakers & distributors and on the >> other >> >> >> say, >> >> >> >> by >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> > way we just made are own DVD because we didn't have the time >> >> for >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> > do >> >> >> >> > things like get new materials for transfer, clear rights etc. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:41 PM, >> <[email protected] >> > >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> It doesn't have to be in the PD in order for it to qualify >> for >> >> >> >> >> replacement >> >> >> >> >> copying under Section 108, Jessica: 108 can be invoked as >> soon >> >> as >> >> >> >> "the >> >> >> >> >> library or archives has, after a reasonable effort, >> determined >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> an >> >> >> >> >> unused replacement cannot be obtained at a fair price." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Recent discussions with colleagues at our Mellon meeting in >> NY >> >> >> >> >> (including >> >> >> >> >> lawyers)regarding the "non-circulating" issue of 108 seem to >> >> >> indicate >> >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> >> the interpretation of 108 in this regard could be extended >> >> >> >> considerably >> >> >> >> >> beyond the library building. The matter really boils down >> to >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> interpretation of "public" (any such copy or phonorecord >> that >> >> is >> >> >> >> >> reproduced in digital format is not made available to the >> >> public >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> >> format outside the premises of the library or archives in >> >> lawful >> >> >> >> >> possession of such copy"). Use of 108 copies by faculty in >> >> >> >> classrooms >> >> >> >> >> is >> >> >> >> >> NOT public use. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Putting this interpretation into play will, of course, >> depend >> >> on >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> position of legal counsel of individual institutions. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Also: the issue of what constitutes damaged or deteriorated >> is >> >> >> >> really >> >> >> >> >> slippery slope when talking about vhs and other mag media. >> >> >> >> Basically, >> >> >> >> >> vhs >> >> >> >> >> tape begins to deteriorate the minute it's put in a box. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> gary handman >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I would be stunned it it were PD. I believe in order for >> it >> >> to >> >> >> be >> >> >> >> PD >> >> >> >> >> it >> >> >> >> >> > would could never have been copyrighted in the first place >> as >> >> >> >> anything >> >> >> >> >> > from >> >> >> >> >> > the last 30 years or so does not require renewal. Do you >> have >> >> >> link >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> >> > reference? Also the fact that is NOT out on DVD is kind >> of >> >> sign >> >> >> it >> >> >> >> is >> >> >> >> >> NOT >> >> >> >> >> > PD as one would imagine that if it were some enterprising >> >> >> company >> >> >> >> >> would >> >> >> >> >> > put >> >> >> >> >> > it out. The fact that is on youtube and websites could >> merely >> >> >> >> indicate >> >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> > rights holder or holders are not very proactive but >> speaking >> >> >> from >> >> >> >> >> > experience >> >> >> >> >> > it is hard to get this stuff down when pirate copies go >> up. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > If the film were PD in it's entirety ( no underlying music >> or >> >> >> >> literary >> >> >> >> >> > rights) than you could copy it, but again that seems >> >> unlikely. >> >> >> If >> >> >> >> it >> >> >> >> >> is >> >> >> >> >> > not >> >> >> >> >> > PD you can only use the VHS copies. The section of >> copyright >> >> law >> >> >> >> which >> >> >> >> >> > "permits" making digital copies from VHS, limits this to >> >> copies >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> >> are >> >> >> >> >> > deteriorating and said copies may not circulate, they may >> >> only >> >> >> be >> >> >> >> used >> >> >> >> >> on >> >> >> >> >> > the library premise. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Marilyn Huntley >> >> >> >> >> > <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm forwarding a question that was sent to me by a >> >> professor. >> >> >> If >> >> >> >> we >> >> >> >> >> do >> >> >> >> >> >> not >> >> >> >> >> >> have the right to do what he's asking, can anyone give me >> >> >> contact >> >> >> >> >> >> information for the rights-holder? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "The Machine That Changed the World." A co-production of >> >> WGBH >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> >> BBC; >> >> >> >> >> >> the 5 VHS tapes our library owns (Giant brains, Inventing >> >> the >> >> >> >> future, >> >> >> >> >> >> Paperback computer, Thinking machine, World at your >> >> fingertips) >> >> >> >> were >> >> >> >> >> >> distributed by Films for the Humanities nearly 20 years >> ago. >> >> >> The >> >> >> >> >> series >> >> >> >> >> >> is >> >> >> >> >> >> long since out of distribution >> >> >> >> (*http://preview.tinyurl.com/6rlfkb* >> >> >> >> ), >> >> >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> >> >> is available for free viewing on numerous web sites (such >> as >> >> * >> >> >> >> >> >> http://preview.tinyurl.com/34pj6hh *and * >> >> >> >> >> >> http://preview.tinyurl.com/39j4p93*, and YouTube). The >> >> Internet >> >> >> >> >> Archive >> >> >> >> >> >> believes this is in the public domain. Should we trust >> them? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> First, can we make copies from our VHS tapes, and if so, >> are >> >> we >> >> >> >> >> limited >> >> >> >> >> >> to >> >> >> >> >> >> using the DVDs within the library? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Second, would we have the right to download a video file >> >> from a >> >> >> >> place >> >> >> >> >> >> like >> >> >> >> >> >> this (*http://preview.tinyurl.com/5p55fd*), and burn it >> onto >> >> >> DVDs? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance for any information or opinions. >> >> >> >> >> >> Marilyn Huntley >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> Marilyn B. Huntley, Staff Assistant/ Film Specialist: >> >> >> >> >> >> Scheduling; purchases, rentals, previews; licensing & >> >> >> copyright >> >> >> >> >> >> A-V Services, Hamilton College, 198 College Hill Rd., >> >> Clinton, >> >> >> NY >> >> >> >> >> 13323 >> >> >> >> >> >> Phone 315-859-4120; Fax 315-859-4185 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively >> >> >> discussion >> >> >> >> of >> >> >> >> >> >> issues >> >> >> >> >> >> relating to the selection, evaluation, >> >> >> acquisition,bibliographic >> >> >> >> >> >> control, >> >> >> >> >> >> preservation, and use of current and evolving video >> formats >> >> in >> >> >> >> >> libraries >> >> >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> >> >> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will >> serve >> >> as >> >> >> an >> >> >> >> >> >> effective >> >> >> >> >> >> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel >> of >> >> >> >> >> communication >> >> >> >> >> >> between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> >> producers >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> >> >> distributors. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> >> >> > Jessica Rosner >> >> >> >> >> > Media Consultant >> >> >> >> >> > 224-545-3897 (cell) >> >> >> >> >> > 212-627-1785 (land line) >> >> >> >> >> > [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively >> >> >> discussion >> >> >> >> of >> >> >> >> >> > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >> >> >> >> >> acquisition,bibliographic >> >> >> >> >> > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving >> video >> >> >> >> formats >> >> >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> >> > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the >> list >> >> >> will >> >> >> >> >> serve >> >> >> >> >> > as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well >> as >> >> a >> >> >> >> >> channel >> >> >> >> >> of >> >> >> >> >> > communication between libraries,educational institutions, >> and >> >> >> video >> >> >> >> >> > producers and distributors. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Gary Handman >> >> >> >> >> Director >> >> >> >> >> Media Resources Center >> >> >> >> >> Moffitt Library >> >> >> >> >> UC Berkeley >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 510-643-8566 >> >> >> >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life >> >> itself." >> >> >> >> >> --Francois Truffaut >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively >> >> discussion >> >> >> of >> >> >> >> >> issues >> >> >> >> >> relating to the selection, evaluation, >> >> acquisition,bibliographic >> >> >> >> >> control, >> >> >> >> >> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats >> in >> >> >> >> libraries >> >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> >> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve >> as >> >> an >> >> >> >> >> effective >> >> >> >> >> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >> >> >> >> communication >> >> >> >> >> between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> producers >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> >> distributors. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> >> > Jessica Rosner >> >> >> >> > Media Consultant >> >> >> >> > 224-545-3897 (cell) >> >> >> >> > 212-627-1785 (land line) >> >> >> >> > [email protected] >> >> >> >> > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively >> >> discussion >> >> >> of >> >> >> >> > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >> >> >> >> acquisition,bibliographic >> >> >> >> > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video >> >> >> formats >> >> >> >> in >> >> >> >> > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list >> >> will >> >> >> >> serve >> >> >> >> > as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as >> a >> >> >> >> channel >> >> >> >> of >> >> >> >> > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and >> >> video >> >> >> >> > producers and distributors. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Gary Handman >> >> >> >> Director >> >> >> >> Media Resources Center >> >> >> >> Moffitt Library >> >> >> >> UC Berkeley >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 510-643-8566 >> >> >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life >> itself." >> >> >> >> --Francois Truffaut >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively >> discussion >> >> of >> >> >> >> issues >> >> >> >> relating to the selection, evaluation, >> acquisition,bibliographic >> >> >> >> control, >> >> >> >> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> >> >> libraries >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as >> an >> >> >> >> effective >> >> >> >> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >> >> >> communication >> >> >> >> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers >> >> and >> >> >> >> distributors. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > Jessica Rosner >> >> >> > Media Consultant >> >> >> > 224-545-3897 (cell) >> >> >> > 212-627-1785 (land line) >> >> >> > [email protected] >> >> >> > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively >> discussion >> >> of >> >> >> > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >> >> >> acquisition,bibliographic >> >> >> > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video >> >> formats >> >> >> in >> >> >> > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list >> will >> >> >> serve >> >> >> > as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a >> >> >> channel >> >> >> of >> >> >> > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and >> video >> >> >> > producers and distributors. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Gary Handman >> >> >> Director >> >> >> Media Resources Center >> >> >> Moffitt Library >> >> >> UC Berkeley >> >> >> >> >> >> 510-643-8566 >> >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC >> >> >> >> >> >> "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." >> >> >> --Francois Truffaut >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion >> of >> >> >> issues >> >> >> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> >> >> control, >> >> >> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> >> libraries >> >> >> and >> >> >> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an >> >> >> effective >> >> >> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >> >> communication >> >> >> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers >> and >> >> >> distributors. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Jessica Rosner >> >> > Media Consultant >> >> > 224-545-3897 (cell) >> >> > 212-627-1785 (land line) >> >> > [email protected] >> >> > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion >> of >> >> > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >> >> acquisition,bibliographic >> >> > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video >> formats >> >> in >> >> > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will >> >> serve >> >> > as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a >> >> channel >> >> of >> >> > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> >> > producers and distributors. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Gary Handman >> >> Director >> >> Media Resources Center >> >> Moffitt Library >> >> UC Berkeley >> >> >> >> 510-643-8566 >> >> [email protected] >> >> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC >> >> >> >> "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." >> >> --Francois Truffaut >> >> >> >> >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> >> issues >> >> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> >> control, >> >> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> libraries >> >> and >> >> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an >> >> effective >> >> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >> communication >> >> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >> >> distributors. >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Jessica Rosner >> > Media Consultant >> > 224-545-3897 (cell) >> > 212-627-1785 (land line) >> > [email protected] >> > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, >> acquisition,bibliographic >> > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats >> in >> > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will >> serve >> > as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a >> channel >> of >> > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> > producers and distributors. >> > >> >> >> Gary Handman >> Director >> Media Resources Center >> Moffitt Library >> UC Berkeley >> >> 510-643-8566 >> [email protected] >> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC >> >> "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." >> --Francois Truffaut >> >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues >> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, >> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries >> and >> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an >> effective >> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication >> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and >> distributors. >> > > > > -- > Jessica Rosner > Media Consultant > 224-545-3897 (cell) > 212-627-1785 (land line) > [email protected] > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in > libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve > as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video > producers and distributors. > Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 [email protected] http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
