Well I think this is kind of apples & oranges. Most of the better
wholesalers can presumably get you any standard release. in print title and
for say studio films you can't really buy directly anyway so you will have
to get that copy of SPIDERMAN 5 from somewhere for your professor of
advanced physics. However what is often called "educational" media is sold
only directly by the distributor. Sadly one thing that is missing is a place
like Video Oyster that did in fact track down LEGITIMATE copies of out of
print titles. I actually have had a few instances where a place like Book
House buys an educational video ( as in full price with the ppr) as a
service to its accounts, but I don't know if all specialty distributors will
allow that.

There is sort of an " in between" world of companies ( Milestone, Zeitgeist,
Kino , New Yorker) who sell the vast majority of their titles at standard
home use prices, but also have them available with PPR (and increasingly
streaming rights) prices for educational institutions as well as often
offering them many months before they become available on the home market.

I think all academic libraries  have to deal with a variety of sources to
fulfill their needs, but sadly a lot of public libraries are not allowed to
go outside of rigid purchasing rules making it difficult for them to get
some wonderful specialty films.

Of course I am not a librarian so all this could be wrong.

Jessica

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Karen Ketchaver <[email protected]> wrote:

> I reiterate what Randal and Helen wrote - that mirrors my experience
> exactly. As an experiment, I recently sent a request to a vendor who
> specializes in locating hard-to-find items. As it played out, the vendor
> took the same path that I had previously taken, including directing me to a
> website that I knew was bogus. Thanks for nothing....
>
> Karen G. Ketchaver
> Acquisitions Unit Leader
> Grasselli Library
> John Carroll University
> 20700 North Park Blvd.
> University Hts., Ohio 44118-4581
> U.S.A.
> (216)397-1622 phone/(216)397-1809 fax
>
>
>
> ---- Original message ----
> >Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:39:45 -0400
> >From: "Helen P. Mack" <[email protected]>
> >Subject: Re: [Videolib] Wholesalers used by academic librarians?
> >To: [email protected]
> >
> >   Lehigh University has the same eclectic needs.  I
> >   was once approached by a book vendor that was
> >   expending their coverage to include videos.  They
> >   snagged an academic acquisitions person who had a
> >   lot of media expertise and began a high-pressure
> >   marketing effort for this service.  Just to be
> >   nice, I tried them for something I was having
> >   trouble finding.  When they couldn't find it
> >   either, they canceled the order.  At that point, I
> >   devoted some time to the problem and found it
> >   myself.
> >
> >   Why would I use a vendor when I can do better than
> >   they can?  It might save time out of my day, but it
> >   would not get the videos in our door any faster.
> >   Since vendors could not possibly stock all videos
> >   from every production company, it would undoubtedly
> >   take longer than it would take me: the presence of a
> >   middleman would require additional time for the
> >   order to be filled.
> >
> >   On 6/14/2011 6:12 PM, Randal Baier wrote:
> >
> >     It's certainly not true for Eastern Michigan. We
> >     are very eclectic and buy from the filmmakers or
> >     the film collectives/media marketeers. Bullfrog,
> >     WMM, NewDay, Insight, et a myriad of al. And yes,
> >     Amazon too.
> >
> >     ------------------------------------------------
> >
> >     From: "Peter Cohn" <[email protected]>
> >     To: [email protected]
> >     Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 3:51:48 PM
> >     Subject: [Videolib] Wholesalers used by academic
> >     librarians?
> >
> >     As part of a business research project,  trying
> >     to find out the extent
> >     to which libraries buy from wholesalers
> >     such as Ingram, Baker & Taylor, and Midwest Tape?
> >       I'm particularly
> >     interested in whether academic libraries
> >     buy from wholesalers.   Also public libraries.
> >     I'm under the
> >     impression that many public libraries buy almost
> >     all their titles from the three mentioned above,
> >     or one of the three.
> >     Is the same true of university libraries?
> >
> >     Thanks,
> >     Peter Cohn
> >     Hillcrest Films
> >
> >     VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and
> >     lively discussion of issues relating to the
> >     selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> >     control, preservation, and use of current and
> >     evolving video formats in libraries and related
> >     institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
> >     as an effective working tool for video librarians,
> >     as well as a channel of communication between
> >     libraries,educational institutions, and video
> >     producers and distributors.
> >
> > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
> >
> > --
> > Helen P. Mack, Acquisitions Librarian
> > Lehigh University, Linderman Library
> > 30 Library Drive
> > Bethlehem, PA 18015-3013  USA
> >
> > Phone 610 758-3035 * Fax 610 758-5605
> > E-mail [email protected]
> >________________
> >VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as
> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> producers and distributors.
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
> distributors.
>



-- 
Jessica Rosner
Media Consultant
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212-627-1785 (land line)
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relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
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