Some disorganized musings about comparing video and journal pricing: The price tiers for academic journals frequently do take the institution size and research level into account. In the academic journal world, pricing models have changed considerably because of the pressure to offer content online. There are frequently licenses involved which delineate perpetual rights granted, outline some reasonable approach to long term accessibility, allow ILL and course pack use, permit off-site and IP access, and so on. I would be more willing to pay institutional video prices if they came with rights to migrate the content forward (or some commitment that the distributor will do it), online access, and so on.
I get the feeling that it is much easier for academic journal publishers to control their distribution means than it is for video distributors. That is – it is hard for me to acquire a subscription of Families in Society for my library without going directly to the publisher or through a subscription agent. Both of those approaches will mean that we have to pay the institutional price or the publisher won’t let us subscribe. For videos that want to distribute to the individual market – their distribution options are harder to control. Amazon doesn’t check to see if they are shipping to an educational address. Athena Athena Hoeppner Electronic Resources Librarian University of Central Florida Libraries [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> | 407-823-5049 From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anthony Anderson Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 12:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Videolib] A Distributor's Response I wonder how many media librarians working in academia are aware of the fact that many journal subscriptions are also subject to the same tiered pricing as is the distribution of documentary films. For example: Families in Society (annual subscription) · Individual: $65 · Non-profit agency: $286 · Institution: $315 Psychotherapy (annual subscription) · Individual: $142 · Institution: $425 Chinese Education & Society (annual subscription) · Individual: $149 · Institution: $1462 (paper and electronic) These examples are very much the norm and not the examples. And as far as I know, the same institutional rate is applied to all academic institutions--regardless if they are junior colleges, small liberal colleges, or large universities. Just some more food for thought (or...um ...contention.) Cheers! Anthony ******************************* Anthony E. Anderson Assistant Director, Doheny Memorial Library University of Southern California Los Angeles, CA 90089-0182 (213) 740-1190 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> "Wind, regen, zon, of kou, Albert Cuyp ik hou van jou." ******************************** On 2/26/2013 7:05 AM, Norman Howden wrote: Not to mention that in this line: "When filmmakers complete a film, they look for the best opportunities to distribute their work to different markets and usually work with different distributors who hold rights to different types of markets. New Day Films, as many of you know, is a cooperative distribution company that distributes to the educational market, which includes university and college as well as public library, K-12 and community organizations." . . . there is an assumption that distributors hold right to markets. That's not something written into any kind of law, it's one of those assumptions that makes fools out of people! -- Norman Howden, Ph.D. Assistant Dean, Educational Resources El Centro College >>> On 2/26/2013 at 8:16 AM, in message <cahnei2bpoyzy9-ogyxol-zznttffbtewf8eenzxnxdhuafb...@mail.gmail.com><mailto:cahnei2bpoyzy9-ogyxol-zznttffbtewf8eenzxnxdhuafb...@mail.gmail.com>, Brian W Boling <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> wrote: > Someone who is advocating for the "honor system" should perhaps change the > following line: > > "The only version of My Perestroika that is legally licensed for > educational use is distributed by New Day Films." > > To something more honest...for instance: > > "The home use version you have purchased is legally allowable for use in > libraries and classrooms under the First Sale doctrine and Section 110 of > Copyright Law. However, we'd really prefer that you pay the educational > price to help support our filmmakers and in the event you should ever > decide to hold a public performance." > > Brian Boling > Media Services Librarian > Temple University Libraries > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Susan Albrecht > <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> wrote: > >> *From:* >> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> [mailto: >> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] >> *On Behalf Of *Jacqueline Ochs >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:30 AM >> *To:* [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> *Subject:* [Videolib] A Distributor's Response**** >> >> ** ** >> > Jacqueline says: > > >> We understand it is not illegal to purchase a DVD intended for home use >> from Amazon and use it in the classroom, but independent filmmakers survive >> because of the honor system that Anthony Anderson wrote about in his post. >> >> >> Susan says: > > >> So I admit I balk a bit at the “honor system” comment. >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as >> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> producers and distributors. >> -
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
