Hi Bob, I know the topic is not a popular one among certain groups, but for many media librarians, it is an issue that I hope we can address in the near future.
I'd be interested to know, off-line, how many media librarians have received a substantial budget increase within the past two-to-five years. Good weekend, all. Best, Mo From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Norris Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 4:32 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service Interesting concept to base price on budget. If that was the case, someone with a green visor may come into your office saying we are going to cut your budget so we can get the same for less. If everyone sends me their budget, I could flush out the concept more J Bob Robert A. Norris Managing Director Film Ideas, Inc. Phone: (847) 419-0255 Email: b...@filmideas.com<mailto:b...@filmideas.com> Web: www.filmideas.com<http://www.filmideas.com/> On Oct 23, 2015, at 2:40 PM, videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu<mailto:videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu> wrote: Send videolib mailing list submissions to videolib@lists.berkeley.edu<mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/videolib@lists.berkeley.edu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu<mailto:videolib-requ...@lists.berkeley.edu> You can reach the person managing the list at videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu<mailto:videolib-ow...@lists.berkeley.edu> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of videolib digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: preferred streaming service (Threatt, Monique Louise) 2. black and white 16 mm , etc (fellin...@aol.com<mailto:fellin...@aol.com>) From: "Threatt, Monique Louise" <mthre...@indiana.edu<mailto:mthre...@indiana.edu>> Date: October 23, 2015 1:28:54 PM CDT To: "videolib@lists.berkeley.edu<mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu>" <videolib@lists.berkeley.edu<mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu>> Cc: "m...@shashwati.com<mailto:m...@shashwati.com>" <m...@shashwati.com<mailto:m...@shashwati.com>> Subject: Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu<mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu> Well said, Susan. Best, Mo From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu<mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Susan Albrecht Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:47 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu<mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu> Cc: m...@shashwati.com<mailto:m...@shashwati.com> Subject: Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service Monique and I actually talked about this a bit while at National Media Market. (Hint: If you don't go, YOU SHOULD!!) While I'm one of those who feels the need to mention our school's small size (925) because it helps to explain both a small budget and very modest potential usage, I get what Monique is saying about large school frustration. And while I would continue to "argue" that large universities can more readily manage to build collections and provide access than can small schools, it is because of the size of the acquisition budget more than because of FTE. (I mean, let's face it, if we each preview and desire the same 95 films from Market, a budget in excess of $100K is going to be able to manage that much better than a budget of $20K!) But I have begun to see the benefit of what Monique suggests in basing any tiered pricing on BUDGET, rather than on FTE, since FTE isn't *necessarily* directly proportional to budget. Also, many community colleges and public libraries have budgets much larger than mine, and yet they are often grouped together and given a substantial discount compared to the college/university group which contains such vastly differently-sized populations and budgets. Another argument, imo, for a budget-based setup. Okay, that ends my campaign for tiered pricing based upon FTE or budget, rather than on classification. :) To more directly answer the original question: our first foray into streamed video services were Swank's Digital Campus and several Media Education Foundation titles through Kanopy. We have since begun a (modest) step into the Kanopy PDA model and are anxious to see how well it is received on our campus, and we have a subscription to Criterion on Demand's collection. Beyond this, we simply can't commit to streaming service, as any commitment to that format means a direct reduction in physical format acquisition. Susan Albrecht Library Media Acquisitions Manager Graduate Fellowship Advisor Wabash College Lilly Library 765-361-6216 (acquisitions) 765-361-6297 (fellowships) 765-361-6295 fax albre...@wabash.edu<mailto:albre...@wabash.edu> www.facebook.com/wabashcollegelibrary.films<http://www.facebook.com/wabashcollegelibrary.films> http://pinterest.com/wabashcolllib/ ******************************************************************* "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice." --Neil Peart ******************************************************************* From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu<mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu> [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Threatt, Monique Louise Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:23 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu<mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu> Cc: m...@shashwati.com<mailto:m...@shashwati.com> Subject: Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service Hello, I too agree with Deg, and Nancy's comments. My university subscribes to numerous platforms, many of which are mentioned below. My preference is to purchase the DVD w/ perpetual streaming rights which can then be hosted on a local server. Otherwise, for commercial platforms, using either the PDA or EBA model is my first choice. I would also like to see more independent, and studio filmmakers participate in future conferences to address economic ways to provide Rights to their films. I really liked what Ana said during her presentation at Market. To paraphrase, just because we are a large university does not mean that we have unlimited budgets to purchase streaming titles. The idea of "tiered-pricing" really needs to be restructured. Large universities continue to 'take one for the team' when it comes to purchasing documentary DVDs. We still pay the $200-400 price tag w/PPR, because we believe in the content, and we believe in supporting the filmmaker, and distributor. However, it's not a sustainable model to purchase the $300 DVD, and then be charged an additional annual fee of $150 to have access to its streaming counterpart. There is also the concern (well, there are several) of vendors losing their right to distribute heavily-used documentaries. In closing, just because a school may have nearly 50,000 students, I assure you that less than 10% of the student population are actually accessing the films. A hike in stats usually is the result of a required film course assignment. There needs to be a better solution to lowering the cost of streaming so that it is affordable for all schools. Perhaps, vendors should market their streaming platforms based on budget, and not FTE. I know I'm not alone in my comments. Best, Monique Threatt Indiana University Bloomington From: fellin...@aol.com<mailto:fellin...@aol.com> Date: October 23, 2015 2:39:47 PM CDT To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu<mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu>, ami...@lsv.uky.edu<mailto:ami...@lsv.uky.edu> Subject: [Videolib] black and white 16 mm , etc Reply-To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu<mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu> Dear Media Friends, We have a 16 mm collection of about eight hundred films which have not fared well over the years because of lack of use and less than favorable temperature conditions. Does it make sense that the b/w would have fared better than the color films? Thanks for your help. And, I will be going to the Digest for 16 mm preservation, in general. Regards, Lisa Lisa Flanzraich Media and Reference Librarian Benjamin S. Rosenthal Library Queens College 65-30 Kissena Blvd. Flushing , NY 11367 718-997-3673 Room 344
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