Hello,

I too agree with Deg, and Nancy’s comments.

My university subscribes to numerous platforms, many of which are mentioned 
below.

My preference is to purchase the DVD w/ perpetual streaming rights which can 
then be hosted on a local server. Otherwise, for commercial platforms, using 
either the PDA or EBA model is my first choice.

I would also like to see more independent, and studio filmmakers participate in 
future conferences to address economic ways to provide Rights to their films.

I really liked what Ana said during her presentation at Market.  To paraphrase, 
just because we are a large university does not mean that we have unlimited 
budgets to purchase streaming titles.

The idea of “tiered-pricing” really needs to be restructured.  Large 
universities continue to ‘take one for the team’ when it comes to purchasing 
documentary DVDs. We still pay the $200-400 price tag w/PPR, because we believe 
in the content, and we believe in supporting the filmmaker, and distributor.

However, it’s not a sustainable model to purchase the $300 DVD, and then be 
charged an additional annual fee of $150 to have access to its streaming 
counterpart.  There is also the concern (well, there are several) of vendors 
losing their right to distribute heavily-used documentaries.

In closing, just because a school may have nearly 50,000 students, I assure you 
that less than 10% of the student population are actually accessing the films.  
A hike in stats usually is the result of a required film course assignment.

There needs to be a better solution to lowering the cost of streaming so that 
it is affordable for all schools.  Perhaps, vendors should market their 
streaming platforms based on budget, and not FTE.

I know I’m not alone in my comments.

Best,
Monique Threatt
Indiana University Bloomington

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nancy E. Friedland
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 5:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service

I too agree. We are in the process of formulating a policy for streaming as new 
models emerge -- which has been under discussion and evaluation for many years. 
What seems to make the most sense in relation to course and research needs, 
library budget and workflow, is to move forward with database purchases (after 
careful evaluation of content) and limit title by title access for streaming 
license to those films specifically requested for course reserves as required 
viewing. This is an issue as the "curated" databases don't always include what 
is needed specifically for courses, we will need to pursue license for 
individual titles and accept that only a small but growing percentage of those 
films will we be able to obtain license for. The database packages are 
invaluable for the excellent content that continues to be in demand. I suspect 
the limited term agreements for individual titles are not sustainable in the 
long run -- whether it is locally hosted or linked to a hosting service by the 
vendor for a multitude of reasons -- budget being a major factor. I prefer in 
perpetuity but recognize that this is impossible in many cases.

Nancy

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Carla Myers 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I agree with everything Deg has said. While we do have subscriptions to film 
databases such as Alexander Street Press and Films on Demand I find it much 
more preferable to purchase titles on a case-by-case bases with perpetual 
streaming rights.

Best,
Carla Myers

Faculty Director of Access Services and Scholarly Communications
The Kraemer Family Library
The University of Colorado Colorado Springs
1420 Austin Bluffs Parkway
Colorado Springs, Colorado 80918
719-255-3908<tel:719-255-3908>

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 On Behalf Of Deg Farrelly
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 1:22 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Videolib] preferred streaming service
Shashwati

I am the media librarian for a large public university.

It is my preference to be able to purchase videos directly, with streaming 
rights in perpetuity (life of file).

I know that I am not alone in this preference and that many other librarians 
that I know, do not want an access model that requires us to repeatedly re-pay 
for the same content.

We are accustomed to purchasing a DVD and owning the DVD for loan or classroom 
use.  Having to pay for a title again after one or three years (a predominant 
licensing model) saps our acquisition budgets and limits our ability to acquire 
additional new content.

Many of us have our own hosting systems.  While we may (and most of us do) 
license content served on different companies¹ servers:  Films on Demand, 
Docuseek2, Ambrose, Alexander Street, etc. (all of which offer us purchase 
opportunity in addition to term licensing) some prefer to host the content 
locally and do not need to rely on the hosting from another company.

It is not necessary to limit your content to one service provider. Your 
streaming rights do not have to be exclusive. You can make your titles 
available on Alexander Street AND on Kanopy; on Films on Demand AND on NewDay. 
Or on all providers. AND, still license the rights to individual libraries.

I am certain other librarians on this list will have other comments to make.

deg farrelly
Media Librarian/Streaming Video Administrator Arizona State University 
Libraries Tempe, AZ  85287-1006
602.332.3103<tel:602.332.3103>




>On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 3:16 AM, Shashwati Talukdar
><[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>
>I am a filmmaker  and some university libraries have approached us
>asking for streaming. We are trying to choose a streaming platform,
>Kanopy, Newday or Fandor. It would be good to know what librarians
>prefer and what their experience is like so that we can make this easy
>as possible for the librarians, teachers and students who want use our films.
>
>
>Any feedback would be very helpful.
>
>
>
>--
>
>regards,
>
>
>Shashwati Talukdar


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relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and 
distributors.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues 
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, 
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and 
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective 
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication 
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