Watching this one with interest, as we (BBC/BBC Active) are the ultimate educational rights holder for this series.
Incidentally, a DVD copy would be available for this title. If it couldn't be supplied through one of our US distributors for whatever reason, we could supply it directly at our standard non-theatric pricing. Does that make the 108 issue redundant in this case? Sent from my iPhone > On 7 Jan 2016, at 20:43, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Send videolib mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://calmail.berkeley.edu/manage/list/listinfo/[email protected] > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of videolib digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Promised Land (Deg Farrelly) > 2. Re: Promised Land (Jessica Rosner) > 3. Re: Promised Land (Brewer, Michael M - (brewerm)) > 4. Re: Promised Land (Nancy E. Friedland) > 5. Free copyright course on multimedia (Hannah Lee) > 6. Re: Promised Land (Reynolds, Jo Ann) > 7. Digital DVDs (Nicholle Gerharter) > 8. clip making (Sarah E. McCleskey) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 22:13:38 +0000 > From: Deg Farrelly <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Promised Land > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > This raises an interesting question.... > > If a due diligence search for a replacement copy under Section 108 pf US > copyright does not return a hard copy available for purchase, but instead > only return a streaming copy, available only for term license.... > > Can the library proceed with a copy made under provisions of Section 108. > > I have my own opinion, but will would like to hear what other librarians > think. > > -deg farrelly > Arizona State University Libraries > >> Kanopy has it. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 17:25:40 -0500 > From: Jessica Rosner <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Promised Land > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <cacre6m90huyfarenneuqb7p6ckfa6b_g01cht-xh7tt6xqr...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Well you can guess my answer but the issue is irrelevent in this case > because the library WANTED to stream it. With streaming becoming the > increasingly desired "format" 108 may not matter as much as you can't > stream an entire work withou permission even if you have a physical copy in > any format. > > >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:13 PM, Deg Farrelly <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> This raises an interesting question.... >> >> If a due diligence search for a replacement copy under Section 108 pf US >> copyright does not return a hard copy available for purchase, but instead >> only return a streaming copy, available only for term license.... >> >> Can the library proceed with a copy made under provisions of Section 108. >> >> I have my own opinion, but will would like to hear what other librarians >> think. >> >> -deg farrelly >> Arizona State University Libraries >> >>> Kanopy has it. >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as >> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> producers and distributors. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. > HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 22:32:50 +0000 > From: "Brewer, Michael M - (brewerm)" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Promised Land > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Deg, > > It is an interesting question. For me, it is less about what the law will > allow and more about whether or not the replacement (in this case the access > to the content in streaming form) will fulfill needs as well as (or better > than) the physical copy. For example, what if a faculty member needs to > extract clips from the film? Would the streaming license allow for that? What > about the need for offline access? If these are not really pressing needs, > the streaming access is probably a better way to go. Personally, I think it > might be worthwhile to both create a 108 copy and acquire the streaming > access and would see that being supportable under 108. > > mb > > Michael Brewer | Librarian | Head, Research & Learning | > [email protected] > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Deg Farrelly > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 3:14 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Promised Land > > This raises an interesting question.... > > If a due diligence search for a replacement copy under Section 108 pf US > copyright does not return a hard copy available for purchase, but instead > only return a streaming copy, available only for term license.... > > Can the library proceed with a copy made under provisions of Section 108. > > I have my own opinion, but will would like to hear what other librarians > think. > > -deg farrelly > Arizona State University Libraries > >> Kanopy has it. > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 21:05:15 -0500 > From: "Nancy E. Friedland" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Promised Land > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <canwf03amqicv9k+clqtoktu0zn7q5didgnzvmbjuos7s_fe...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > This is an excellent question. I think the issue here is perpetual access. > The subscription service does not provide perpetual access. The library > should have the right to replace the VHS with a hard copy in accepted > format such as DVD. I also agree with Michael's point of use and purpose -- > the hard copy is required for research and teaching needs. > > Nancy > > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:32 PM, Brewer, Michael M - (brewerm) < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Deg, >> >> It is an interesting question. For me, it is less about what the law will >> allow and more about whether or not the replacement (in this case the >> access to the content in streaming form) will fulfill needs as well as (or >> better than) the physical copy. For example, what if a faculty member needs >> to extract clips from the film? Would the streaming license allow for that? >> What about the need for offline access? If these are not really pressing >> needs, the streaming access is probably a better way to go. Personally, I >> think it might be worthwhile to both create a 108 copy and acquire the >> streaming access and would see that being supportable under 108. >> >> mb >> >> Michael Brewer | Librarian | Head, Research & Learning | >> [email protected] >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Deg Farrelly >> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 3:14 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Promised Land >> >> This raises an interesting question.... >> >> If a due diligence search for a replacement copy under Section 108 pf US >> copyright does not return a hard copy available for purchase, but instead >> only return a streaming copy, available only for term license.... >> >> Can the library proceed with a copy made under provisions of Section 108. >> >> I have my own opinion, but will would like to hear what other librarians >> think. >> >> -deg farrelly >> Arizona State University Libraries >> >>> Kanopy has it. >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as >> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> producers and distributors. >> >> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of >> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic >> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in >> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as >> an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of >> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video >> producers and distributors. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. > HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 10:03:35 -0500 > From: Hannah Lee <[email protected]> > Subject: [Videolib] Free copyright course on multimedia > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <CAD=9qeE2zzMpOA48FSVFE9WV1pT5MfkNVVHRPy43X==ua9w...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello-- there's a free four week online course on copyright > <https://www.coursera.org/learn/copyright-for-multimedia>, specifically > targeting multimedia (data, images, music and video) offered through the > Coursera platform. For those interested in taking a Massively Open Online > Course (MOOC), this'll be your chance! Kevin Smith from Duke University, > Anne Gilliland from the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill, and Lisa > Macklin from Emory University are the instructors for the course. You may > also be interested in the first course on copyright > <https://www.coursera.org/learn/copyright-for-education>that they offered, > specifically designed for educators and librarians. > > > -- > Hannah K. Lee > Senior Assistant Librarian > Program Coordinator, Multimedia Literacy > Student Multimedia Design Center > Multimedia Collections and Services Department > University of Delaware Library > 181 S. College Ave. > Newark, DE 19717-5267 > 302-831-3763 > [email protected] > http://library.udel.edu/multimedia <http://www.lib.udel.edu/multimedia/> > http://guides.lib.udel.edu/multimedia > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. > HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 15:32:03 +0000 > From: "Reynolds, Jo Ann" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Promised Land > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > > <co1pr05mb346ddc52c41aaeb4c6cf273d8...@co1pr05mb346.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I would say yes, the section 108 copy could proceed since there is not a > replacement copy available for a reasonable price. I would not consider a > term stream to be a replacement copy for a VHS or DVD. > > Jo Ann > > Jo Ann Reynolds > Reserve Services Coordinator > Homer Babbidge Library > University of Connecticut > 369 Fairfield Road, Unit 1005R > Storrs, CT 06269-1005 > 860-486-1406 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Deg Farrelly > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 5:14 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Promised Land > > This raises an interesting question.... > > If a due diligence search for a replacement copy under Section 108 pf US > copyright does not return a hard copy available for purchase, but instead > only return a streaming copy, available only for term license.... > > Can the library proceed with a copy made under provisions of Section 108. > > I have my own opinion, but will would like to hear what other librarians > think. > > -deg farrelly > Arizona State University Libraries > >> Kanopy has it. > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 19:47:20 +0000 > From: Nicholle Gerharter <[email protected]> > Subject: [Videolib] Digital DVDs > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi - > > I'm wondering if public libraries will share what they do with the digital > copies of DVDs they receive with the physical DVDs and Blu-rays they order. > What's legal? What's feasible? For example, we've heard that some libraries > load them on to a Roku (or similar device) and allow it to be checked out. > > Any comments are appreciated. > > Thanks, > > ----------------------------------- > Nicholle Gerharter, Reference Librarian > Natrona County Public Library > 307-237-4935 > E-Mail and correspondence to and from me is subject to the Wyoming Public > Records Act and may be disclosed to third parties. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. > HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 20:34:31 +0000 > From: "Sarah E. McCleskey" <[email protected]> > Subject: [Videolib] clip making > To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > > <sn1pr0601mb1581c6f4acfbe8b27b4bf4c7b9...@sn1pr0601mb1581.namprd06.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi gurus, > > A professor who is preparing a lecture on Foucault and punishment wants to > use a short clip from Making a Murderer. Just the part where he is sentenced. > The first episode was released on YouTube to drum up interest, but the > professor couldn't find the clip from the episode she wants on YouTube. > > Do you have advice for how to rip a clip from Netflix? I am not > technologically inclined but I am sure the technology must exist. > > Thanks! > > Sarah > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment scrubbed and removed. > HTML attachments are only available in MIME digests. > > End of videolib Digest, Vol 98, Issue 5 > *************************************** VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
